I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email archive except in this particular thread.
So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change? *shrug* sent from phone On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:30 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> wrote: > One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on savannah - > All new bugs to be reported on github" > > It was ignored entirely. > > GC > " > > > [image: Mailtrack] > <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&> > Sender > notified by > Mailtrack > <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&> > 11/02/19, > 02:27:56 PM > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political >> discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have >> to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug >> tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that >> point. When we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to leave >> the bug tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the >> result. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit more >> of explanation for this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we no >> longe host our code in Savannah, even when done in capital letters, isn’t >> an argument. As some may recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our code >> hasn’t been hosted on Savannah for years. >> >> I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be >> acceptable behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep >> discussion list is not a place like this. >> >> Fred >> >> > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento < >> [email protected]>: >> > >> > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it really >> upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political arguments >> getting in the way of making real progress on this project. >> > >> > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not gonna >> sign up for this service or that service because of some political >> reason." Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it for >> about 20 years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant in my >> belief and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep >> languish because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather than >> for TECHNICAL ones. >> > >> > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind then I >> guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess you're not >> writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as simple as that. >> Many of these decisions were made by consensus... moving to github was not >> my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. Someone refusing to >> submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github account isn't >> going to change that. >> > >> > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE >> AREN'T HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions to >> make things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical reasons. >> > >> > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving to >> github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing unless we >> were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests due to >> being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has meant >> more exposure for the project which is a good thing. >> > >> > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your petty >> political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop WHINING! >> > >> > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination of >> feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while. >> > >> > GC >> > >> > Sender notified by >> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 10:33:29 PM >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is permanently >> closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list. >> > Sender notified by >> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 11:56:16 AM >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Gregory Casamento wrote: >> > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. >> > >> > An announcement would have been nice. >> > >> > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be >> > > added. >> > >> > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. >> > That's OK. >> > >> > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. >> > >> > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I guess I >> > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Gregory Casamento >> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Gregory Casamento >> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >> >> >> > > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >
