*shrug* I sent it. I'm not certain why it didn't go through to the list. On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:49 PM Ivan Vučica <[email protected]> wrote:
> FWIW not in my archive when I search for Savannah > > sent from phone > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:46 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Please see the image attached. >> >> [image: Mailtrack] >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >> Sender >> notified by >> Mailtrack >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >> 11/02/19, >> 02:45:19 PM >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:39 PM Gregory Casamento < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I sent out an email. I don't know why it didn't reach the list. I >>> sent it on gnustep-dev. >>> >>> [image: Mailtrack] >>> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>> Sender >>> notified by >>> Mailtrack >>> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>> 11/02/19, >>> 02:39:12 PM >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ivan Vučica <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I >>>> personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email >>>> archive except in this particular thread. >>>> >>>> So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change? >>>> >>>> *shrug* >>>> >>>> sent from phone >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:30 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on >>>>> savannah - All new bugs to be reported on github" >>>>> >>>>> It was ignored entirely. >>>>> >>>>> GC >>>>> " >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Mailtrack] >>>>> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>>> Sender >>>>> notified by >>>>> Mailtrack >>>>> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>>> 11/02/19, >>>>> 02:27:56 PM >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political >>>>>> discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have >>>>>> to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug >>>>>> tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that >>>>>> point. When we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to >>>>>> leave >>>>>> the bug tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the >>>>>> result. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit more >>>>>> of explanation for this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we no >>>>>> longe host our code in Savannah, even when done in capital letters, isn’t >>>>>> an argument. As some may recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our code >>>>>> hasn’t been hosted on Savannah for years. >>>>>> >>>>>> I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be >>>>>> acceptable behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep >>>>>> discussion list is not a place like this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fred >>>>>> >>>>>> > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento < >>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it >>>>>> really upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political >>>>>> arguments getting in the way of making real progress on this project. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not >>>>>> gonna sign up for this service or that service because of some political >>>>>> reason." Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it >>>>>> for >>>>>> about 20 years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant in >>>>>> my >>>>>> belief and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep >>>>>> languish because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather >>>>>> than >>>>>> for TECHNICAL ones. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind >>>>>> then I guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess >>>>>> you're not writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as >>>>>> simple as that. Many of these decisions were made by consensus... moving >>>>>> to github was not my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. >>>>>> Someone >>>>>> refusing to submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github >>>>>> account isn't going to change that. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE >>>>>> AREN'T HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions >>>>>> to >>>>>> make things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical >>>>>> reasons. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving >>>>>> to github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing >>>>>> unless >>>>>> we were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests due >>>>>> to >>>>>> being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has meant >>>>>> more exposure for the project which is a good thing. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your >>>>>> petty political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop >>>>>> WHINING! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination >>>>>> of feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > GC >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sender notified by >>>>>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 10:33:29 PM >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is >>>>>> permanently closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list. >>>>>> > Sender notified by >>>>>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 11:56:16 AM >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > Gregory Casamento wrote: >>>>>> > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > An announcement would have been nice. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be >>>>>> > > added. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. >>>>>> > That's OK. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I >>>>>> guess I >>>>>> > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Gregory Casamento >>>>>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Gregory Casamento >>>>>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gregory Casamento >>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gregory Casamento >>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>> >> >> >> -- >> Gregory Casamento >> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >> > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com http://ind.ie/phoenix/
