I sent out an email. I don't know why it didn't reach the list. I sent it on gnustep-dev.
[image: Mailtrack] <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> Sender notified by Mailtrack <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> 11/02/19, 02:39:12 PM On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ivan Vučica <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I > personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email > archive except in this particular thread. > > So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change? > > *shrug* > > sent from phone > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:30 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on savannah - >> All new bugs to be reported on github" >> >> It was ignored entirely. >> >> GC >> " >> >> >> [image: Mailtrack] >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >> Sender >> notified by >> Mailtrack >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >> 11/02/19, >> 02:27:56 PM >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political >>> discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have >>> to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug >>> tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that >>> point. When we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to leave >>> the bug tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the >>> result. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit more >>> of explanation for this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we no >>> longe host our code in Savannah, even when done in capital letters, isn’t >>> an argument. As some may recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our code >>> hasn’t been hosted on Savannah for years. >>> >>> I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be >>> acceptable behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep >>> discussion list is not a place like this. >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento < >>> [email protected]>: >>> > >>> > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it >>> really upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political >>> arguments getting in the way of making real progress on this project. >>> > >>> > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not gonna >>> sign up for this service or that service because of some political >>> reason." Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it for >>> about 20 years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant in my >>> belief and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep >>> languish because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather than >>> for TECHNICAL ones. >>> > >>> > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind then I >>> guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess you're not >>> writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as simple as that. >>> Many of these decisions were made by consensus... moving to github was not >>> my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. Someone refusing to >>> submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github account isn't >>> going to change that. >>> > >>> > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE >>> AREN'T HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions to >>> make things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical reasons. >>> > >>> > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving to >>> github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing unless we >>> were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests due to >>> being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has meant >>> more exposure for the project which is a good thing. >>> > >>> > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your >>> petty political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop >>> WHINING! >>> > >>> > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination of >>> feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while. >>> > >>> > GC >>> > >>> > Sender notified by >>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 10:33:29 PM >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is permanently >>> closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list. >>> > Sender notified by >>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 11:56:16 AM >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Gregory Casamento wrote: >>> > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. >>> > >>> > An announcement would have been nice. >>> > >>> > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be >>> > > added. >>> > >>> > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. >>> > That's OK. >>> > >>> > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. >>> > >>> > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I guess I >>> > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Gregory Casamento >>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Gregory Casamento >>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Gregory Casamento >> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >> > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com http://ind.ie/phoenix/
