Yes, I can't explain it. I didn't get a moderator email either... I am the moderator on the list, so if it were rejected I would have gotten notified.
GC [image: Mailtrack] <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> Sender notified by Mailtrack <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> 11/02/19, 04:08:41 PM On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de < lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de> wrote: > When I look at the archives it isn’t there: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnustep-dev/2019-05/index.html > > Maybe it got stuck. Did you send it from the address you’re subscribed to > the list to? > > > regards, > > Lars > > Am 02.11.2019 um 20:01 schrieb Gregory Casamento <greg.casame...@gmail.com > >: > > *shrug* I sent it. I'm not certain why it didn't go through to the list. > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:49 PM Ivan Vučica <ivuc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> FWIW not in my archive when I search for Savannah >> >> sent from phone >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:46 Gregory Casamento <greg.casame...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Please see the image attached. >>> >>> [image: Mailtrack] >>> <https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>> Sender >>> notified by >>> Mailtrack >>> <https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>> 11/02/19, >>> 02:45:19 PM >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:39 PM Gregory Casamento < >>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I sent out an email. I don't know why it didn't reach the list. I >>>> sent it on gnustep-dev. >>>> >>>> [image: Mailtrack] >>>> <https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>> Sender >>>> notified by >>>> Mailtrack >>>> <https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>> 11/02/19, >>>> 02:39:12 PM >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ivan Vučica <ivuc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I >>>>> personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email >>>>> archive except in this particular thread. >>>>> >>>>> So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change? >>>>> >>>>> *shrug* >>>>> >>>>> sent from phone >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:30 Gregory Casamento <greg.casame...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on >>>>>> savannah - All new bugs to be reported on github" >>>>>> >>>>>> It was ignored entirely. >>>>>> >>>>>> GC >>>>>> " >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Mailtrack] >>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>>>> Sender >>>>>> notified by >>>>>> Mailtrack >>>>>> <https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>>>> 11/02/19, >>>>>> 02:27:56 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <fredkie...@gmx.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political >>>>>>> discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug >>>>>>> tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> point. When we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to >>>>>>> leave >>>>>>> the bug tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the >>>>>>> result. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> of explanation for this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> longe host our code in Savannah, even when done in capital letters, >>>>>>> isn’t >>>>>>> an argument. As some may recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our >>>>>>> code >>>>>>> hasn’t been hosted on Savannah for years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be >>>>>>> acceptable behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep >>>>>>> discussion list is not a place like this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fred >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento < >>>>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it >>>>>>> really upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political >>>>>>> arguments getting in the way of making real progress on this project. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not >>>>>>> gonna sign up for this service or that service because of some political >>>>>>> reason." Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> about 20 years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant >>>>>>> in my >>>>>>> belief and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep >>>>>>> languish because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> for TECHNICAL ones. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind >>>>>>> then I guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess >>>>>>> you're not writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as >>>>>>> simple as that. Many of these decisions were made by consensus... >>>>>>> moving >>>>>>> to github was not my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. >>>>>>> Someone >>>>>>> refusing to submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github >>>>>>> account isn't going to change that. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE >>>>>>> AREN'T HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> make things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical >>>>>>> reasons. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving >>>>>>> to github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing >>>>>>> unless >>>>>>> we were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests >>>>>>> due to >>>>>>> being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has >>>>>>> meant >>>>>>> more exposure for the project which is a good thing. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your >>>>>>> petty political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop >>>>>>> WHINING! >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination >>>>>>> of feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > GC >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Sender notified by >>>>>>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 10:33:29 PM >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento < >>>>>>> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is >>>>>>> permanently closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list. >>>>>>> > Sender notified by >>>>>>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 11:56:16 AM >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <ya...@gnu.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > Gregory Casamento wrote: >>>>>>> > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > An announcement would have been nice. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be >>>>>>> > > added. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. >>>>>>> > That's OK. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I >>>>>>> guess I >>>>>>> > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Gregory Casamento >>>>>>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>>>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Gregory Casamento >>>>>>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>>>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gregory Casamento >>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gregory Casamento >>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gregory Casamento >>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>> >> > > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ > > > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com http://ind.ie/phoenix/
