FWIW not in my archive when I search for Savannah sent from phone
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:46 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> wrote: > Please see the image attached. > > [image: Mailtrack] > <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> > Sender > notified by > Mailtrack > <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> > 11/02/19, > 02:45:19 PM > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:39 PM Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I sent out an email. I don't know why it didn't reach the list. I sent >> it on gnustep-dev. >> >> [image: Mailtrack] >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >> Sender >> notified by >> Mailtrack >> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >> 11/02/19, >> 02:39:12 PM >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ivan Vučica <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I >>> personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email >>> archive except in this particular thread. >>> >>> So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change? >>> >>> *shrug* >>> >>> sent from phone >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:30 Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on savannah >>>> - All new bugs to be reported on github" >>>> >>>> It was ignored entirely. >>>> >>>> GC >>>> " >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Mailtrack] >>>> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>> Sender >>>> notified by >>>> Mailtrack >>>> <https://mailtrack.io?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality5&;> >>>> 11/02/19, >>>> 02:27:56 PM >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political >>>>> discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have >>>>> to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug >>>>> tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that >>>>> point. When we agreed on moving GNUstep to GitHub we also decided to leave >>>>> the bug tracker on Savannah, at least this is my recollection of the >>>>> result. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If this is true, a bit more >>>>> of explanation for this step would be appropriate. Just saying that we no >>>>> longe host our code in Savannah, even when done in capital letters, isn’t >>>>> an argument. As some may recall, we did move from GNA to GitHub, our code >>>>> hasn’t been hosted on Savannah for years. >>>>> >>>>> I really would like to hear an explanation not a rant. That may be >>>>> acceptable behaviour in some countries at the moment, I hope the GNUstep >>>>> discussion list is not a place like this. >>>>> >>>>> Fred >>>>> >>>>> > Am 02.11.2019 um 03:42 schrieb Gregory Casamento < >>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> > >>>>> > I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it >>>>> really upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political >>>>> arguments getting in the way of making real progress on this project. >>>>> > >>>>> > I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not >>>>> gonna sign up for this service or that service because of some political >>>>> reason." Free Software is a good cause and I have been fighting for it >>>>> for >>>>> about 20 years now. I joined GNUstep in 1999 and I have been adamant in >>>>> my >>>>> belief and protection of free software, but I have also watched GNUstep >>>>> languish because of decisions sometimes made for political ends rather >>>>> than >>>>> for TECHNICAL ones. >>>>> > >>>>> > If you don't want to use clang, fine.... if we leave gcc behind then >>>>> I guess you'll need to fork. You don't like github, then I guess you're >>>>> not writing bugs or contributing to the project. It's just as simple as >>>>> that. Many of these decisions were made by consensus... moving to github >>>>> was not my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. Someone refusing >>>>> to submit bugs due to the fact that they might need a github account isn't >>>>> going to change that. >>>>> > >>>>> > I shut down the savannah bug tracker for a very simple reason. WE >>>>> AREN'T HOSTING SOURCE ON SAVANNAH ANYMORE. Contribute, make suggestions to >>>>> make things better, but for GOODNESS SAKE make them for technical reasons. >>>>> > >>>>> > For those who believe that we have received no benefit from moving >>>>> to github, think again. Algoriddim likely would not be contributing >>>>> unless >>>>> we were there and also we have had a number of helpful pull requests due >>>>> to >>>>> being here. So, please, don't kid yourselves. Being on github has meant >>>>> more exposure for the project which is a good thing. >>>>> > >>>>> > So, I'm asking you... if you want to help this project leave your >>>>> petty political arguments to one side and HELP THE PROJECT and stop >>>>> WHINING! >>>>> > >>>>> > FYI, This rant is not directed at one person, just the culmination >>>>> of feelings that have been brewing in my mind for a while. >>>>> > >>>>> > GC >>>>> > >>>>> > Sender notified by >>>>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 10:33:29 PM >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:56 AM Gregory Casamento < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > I'm sorry to hear that, but the bug tracker at savannah is >>>>> permanently closed. I suppose you can use the mailing list. >>>>> > Sender notified by >>>>> > Mailtrack 11/01/19, 11:56:16 AM >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:25 AM Yavor Doganov <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Gregory Casamento wrote: >>>>> > > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. >>>>> > >>>>> > An announcement would have been nice. >>>>> > >>>>> > > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be >>>>> > > added. >>>>> > >>>>> > I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. >>>>> > That's OK. >>>>> > >>>>> > > Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. >>>>> > >>>>> > As I don't have a GitHub account and don't plan to make one, I guess >>>>> I >>>>> > can report bugs to bug-gnustep@. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Gregory Casamento >>>>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Gregory Casamento >>>>> > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>>> > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>> > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gregory Casamento >>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >>>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Gregory Casamento >> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >> http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >> > > > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > http://ind.ie/phoenix/ >
