>> Sorry, couldn't disagree with you more...the renewal should be
>> sent to the Admin Contact (the owner of the name).  He is the
>> one who will be paying the renewal fees.  He/She is responsible
>> for paying the renewal fees.

No, the BILLING contact should be the person responsible for paying the
renewal fees.  In many cases, this is the same person as the Administrative
contact, BUT NOT ALWAYS.  In the case of large corporations, for example,
the Administrative and Billing contacts may be different out of necessity.


>> If renewal notices are sent to the RSP (and not the owner), and the
>> RSP fails to notify the owner that the renewal is due and the owner
>> loses his domain name, will the RSP be liable for all loses?  What
>> if the owner is in the process of changing RSP's???

The fact remains that the RSP is the entity who originally sold the domain
registration.  In many cases, the registrant may be completely unaware that
Tucows/OpenSRS is the registrar, and would be surprised/confused by a
notification from Tucows that they need to renew their domain registration.
A notification from the RSP makes sense.

As I understand it, notification will *FIRST* be given to the RSP so that
they can, in turn, pass that on to the registrant.  But if the domain is not
renewed by some point in time, then Tucows may bypass the RSP and contact
the registrant directly.  This preserves the relationship that the
registrant has with the RSP but also provides a "safety" for an
irresponsible RSP.

While you've articulated several scenarios involving "rogue RSPs", just as
many can be concocted for irresponsible domain registrants.  Most of us who
are RSPs have had to send a username and password to a user who forgot it,
and I know I've actually had to help modify an administrative email address
for a user who left the ISP he was with and no longer had access to the old
email.

>> Domain names are like real estate, why should the real estate agent
>> retain any control of the property after it is sold?

Why do you think that notification of pending expiration constitutes some
kind of "control"?  As for updating Tech Contact Information (the original
topic of the thread), there must be a way for the RSP to update their
contact information for domains for which they ARE the technical contact.
The issue is that there's no convenient way to do it so that the change is
reflected in all related domains...under the old NSI system, updating the
information connected with a "Handle" automatically caused all related
records to show the new data.

Regards,
Eric Longman
Atl-Connect Internet Services

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Subject: Re: Updating Tech Contact Information


William,

Sorry, couldn't disagree with you more...the renewal should be
sent to the Admin Contact (the owner of the name).  He is the
one who will be paying the renewal fees.  He/She is responsible
for paying the renewal fees.

If renewal notices are sent to the RSP (and not the owner), and the
RSP fails to notify the owner that the renewal is due and the owner
loses his domain name, will the RSP be liable for all loses?  What
if the owner is in the process of changing RSP's???

Domain names are like real estate, why should the real estate agent
retain any control of the property after it is sold?

Russ



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