Just to add to a point said in this mail :

"Extent of rights given by a registrar to their partners"
Any NSI partner (International, Gold, Premiere or any damnit) CAN change the
naemservers and contact info of a domain name without the techie/admin or
billing contact's acceptance of transfer.

We are OpenSRS RSP are not able to do the same.

I am not debating that we should be able to do that.
How good/bad this feature is a matter of *intense* debate :)

However If I have to imagine myself in the position of the customer, I would
feel *extensively* cheated. I think we cannot change the way NSI does the
thing. But doing something simmilar would be not very fair either.

Abhishek Rungta
Indus Net Technologies
Phone : 91-33-2201718   2210896
http://www.talash.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: ecs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brian Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Tech Contact Information


> If you have been following this discussion you would understand that the
> original point was need for a RSP to change his contact information on the
> domains where he is listed as the tech contact and his nameservers are
being
> used on the domain record and that is the point that has been made
> repeatedly during this discussion.
>
> Not an unreasonable request.
>
> As usual, RussSt50 introduced extaneous information into the discussion
that
> had nothing to do with the original message.
>
> The origninal request had nothing to do with a RSP being able to change
> other information on the domain name.   Nor has any of the RSPs requested
> such rights during this discussion.
>
> As to ownership, the point has been made repeatedily in various posts that
> no one owns a domain name, but receives a lease to the right to use the
> domain name as long as the annual payments are made when they register the
> domain name.
>
> There are no ownership rights being violated when the tech contact updates
> his records to reflect changes in his information on the domains where his
> nameservers are being used and he is listed as the tech contact.
>
> If the lessee of the domain name does not wish anybody "trespassing" on
his
> property and making changes, all the lessee needs to do is spend the money
> to acquire his own nameservers and name himself as the tech contact on all
> his leased domains.
>
> Frankly, to introduce more extraneous information into this discussion,
> OpenSRS needs to adjust their attitude toward their RSPs and introduce
more
> trust into the relationship on the part of OpenSRS toward their RSPs.
> OpenSRS gives their RSPs less rights than Network Solutions gives to their
> resellers or for that matter, less rights than Network Solutions gives to
> anybody who is listed as the tech contact on a domain name.
>
> As tech contact on a domain listed with Network Solutions, I can make
> changes to the admin, billing, tech contact information and the
nameservers
> on a domain name.  The admin contact would receive an email concerning the
> change and can veto it, but the tech contact has the authority to initiate
> such changes, which are then made unless vetoed by the admin contact.
>
> OpenSRS either needs to trust those who secure the business for them or
> OpenSRS needs to take over the functions of managing the domains and
making
> the modifications as requested by the admin and tech contacts.  Then the
> tech contact RSP would not have this problem of making reasonable changes
to
> the domain names that they register with OpenSRS.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 9:17 AM
> Subject: RE: Updating Tech Contact Information
>
>
> >The way I see it RussSt50, has a point that necessitates the use of
> handles.
> >Why should an RSP be able to change domain info that does not belong to
> >them? I am an RSP and I agree, I should not.
> >
> >What I should be able to change is my contact information, obviously.
This
> >information should not be part of the Domain record, but associated with
> it.
> >I can change my contact record, but the domain owner can decide not to
have
> >my record associated with their domain.
> >
> >I would hope that OpenSRS can see this as a necessity. There really is no
> >other logical way.
> >
> >Brian Haines
> >
> >
> >Thanks for the reply...
> >
> >Why should you be able to change anything on a domain name
> >which you do not own?  The only reason I can think of is so that
> >every time someone does a WhoIs search on the domain name,
> >you get free advertising.  Once you have transferred a domain name,
> >there is nothing else for you to do - you're no longer needed.
> >
> >What if the owner wanted to use the website developer as the Tech
> >Contact?  After all, it's called a Tech Contact...not Reseller Contact.
> >
> >RS
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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