At 5/14/01 9:30 AM, easygoing wrote:

>The point that you and William continue to ignore in your
>arguments is that the reseller provided you enough proof of
>non-payment to suspend the domain, or in reality, to take it
>away from the end user for non-payment.

The point that people who think OpenSRS is tying their hands are ignoring 
is that with a couple of hour's work, you can "layer" an extra, 
intermediate password between your end users and the OpenSRS system. This 
way only you know the real OpenSRS password -- it can still be managed by 
the end-user, but only through your interface that translates the 
passwords.

This gives you complete control of the domains if you wish, while 
allowing you to leave it in the end-user's name so that it can still be 
transferred and owned by the actual end-user. Shove something in your TOS 
that says you own unpaid domains, and you're done. (This scheme doesn't 
protect against people transferring domains away after 60 days but before 
the chargeback -- but neither do the schemes other registrars give their 
resellers.)

And the point that people who think OpenSRS's current policy actually 
protects end-users are ignoring is that any rogue reseller would 
obviously use the scheme above (or a simpler scheme of just logging 
passwords) to get full control of any domain he wanted. So the policy 
does nothing whatsoever to enhance protection for the end-user against 
rogue OpenSRS resellers (and may in fact lessen protection due to a 
weaker audit trail vs. registrars who can tell the difference between 
changes made by a reseller and changes made by an end-user).

But if OpenSRS's policy fulfills some legal requirement (and they 
obviously believe it does), that's the way it has to be. You might as 
well just bite the bullet and layer the passwords like this if it really 
means that much to you; it's really not hard to do. Certainly less effort 
than switching to another registrar, all other things being equal.

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