*shrug*  I'd be speculating if I knew - I'd suppose they'd use a variety
of sources, such as zone file crunching, some whois polling for minor
verification, maybe star gazing and intestine stirring.

Honestly, I really don't know - we actually find this number to be quite
high ourselves (excessively so)

Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Joel Moss wrote:

> OK, thanks for clarifying that Chuck.  Where exactly do Snapnames get their data 
>from?
>
> Joel Moss
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Joel Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "����������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Grace period domains deletion
>
>
> > We're assuming, of course, that SnapNames numbers are accurate to any
> > degree.  Yes, we allow the occasional deletion (we're not monsters over
> > here) but we do ask you to ensure that when a domain is submitted, that
> > it's correct and paid for.  Sometimes mistakes happen, sometimes we delete
> > domains.
> >
> > Even then, if this number IS accurate (let's just suppose) then it
> > accounts for less than .25% of our total registrations (give or take) and
> > is quite a low number (hrm...)
> >
> > Still, I think the methodology used by snapnames (because they don't have
> > access to registry data, and are extrapolating in some manner or another)
> > is incorrect.
> >
> > Charles Daminato
> > TUCOWS Product Manager
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> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Joel Moss wrote:
> >
> > > He's got a point there!  Can anyone at Tucows explain that one?
> > >
> > > Joel Moss
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: ����������
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:26 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: Grace period domains deletion
> > >
> > >
> > >   what i don't get is why if it is true snapnames reported
> > >
> > >   > TUCOWS/OpenSRS 7,576
> > >
> > >   with the second most domain deletions of all registrars when resellers are NOT 
>allowed to delete domains?
> > >
> > >   am i missing something?
> > >
> > >   i really hate calling customers who mispelled their name or accidently 
>registered the domain years for 10 instead of 1(usually
> happens cause of accidently rolling the rolling thingie on mouse's) and tell them 
>they can't cancel their domain because TUCOWs does
> not allow it. most ICANN accredited registars allow deletions which pisses many 
>customers off arguing why we can't do it for them
> but some other site X can. but i really didn't give it much thought thinking TUCOWs 
>was not allowing deletions... but from the
> snapnames report it would seem TUCOWS was actually deleting *MUCH* MORE domains then 
>other registrars, while telling most(?)
> resellers that deletions were not allowed
> > >
> > >   someone plz explain?
> > >
> > >
> > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > >     ���� ���: JoelMoss
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> > >     ���� ��¥: 2001�� 11�� 5�� ������ ���� 8:34
> > >     ����: Re: Grace period domains deletion
> > >
> > >
> > > I maybe presuming here, but if Tucows is supposed to offer deletions within the 
>5 day grace period to registrants, then surely
> that
> > >
> > > feature must then be extended to its resellers (us)!  I seem to remember 
>something being mentioned about this a while back, but
> from
> > >
> > > what I see, nothing became of it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would like to officially request that resellers be allowed to send as many 
>deletion requests as we need to Tucows within the 5
> day
> > >
> > > grace period, as trhis is effectively what ICANN say they must allow, yet TUCOWS 
>only allows us one deletion - ever!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joel Moss
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> > > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: "Sergei Kolodka"
> > >
> > > To:
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:28 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Grace period domains deletion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello discuss-list,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Cite from "Editorial Update: State of the Domain,
> > >
> > > > Third Quarter 2001" by SnapNames:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The following lists the number of names in this group
> > >
> > > > that had been registered and canceled within the five
> > >
> > > > day grace period at the most affected registrars:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > VeriSign Registrar 12,340
> > >
> > > > TUCOWS/OpenSRS 7,576
> > >
> > > > Register.com 2,322
> > >
> > > > DotRegistrar 731
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Am i missed something and domain deletions within
> > >
> > > > grace period now part of OpenSRS API ?
> > >
> > > > Or SnapNames wrong in digits ?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > Sergei Kolodka
> > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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