Well, Cameron Powell is on (or reads and posts) this list from time to time.
He's the GC at SnapNames and ought to be able to craft an adequate explanation... so: poke poke Cameron, where do the numbers come from? :-) (no animosity intended, and sorry if this is a repeat - the Jim Fleming posts triggered a 3-day delete of this list on my end) -Russ At 09:56 AM 11/5/2001, Scott Allan wrote: >Yup - > >We were scratching our heads as well on this stat - we are investigating, >with the going assumption (mine anyways) being the SN logic (and therefore >data) is flawed. If we are wrong, we will post... > >sA > > >At 09:40 AM 11/5/01 -0500, Charles Daminato wrote: >>*shrug* I'd be speculating if I knew - I'd suppose they'd use a variety >>of sources, such as zone file crunching, some whois polling for minor >>verification, maybe star gazing and intestine stirring. >> >>Honestly, I really don't know - we actually find this number to be quite >>high ourselves (excessively so) >> >>Charles Daminato >>TUCOWS Product Manager >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Joel Moss wrote: >> >> > OK, thanks for clarifying that Chuck. Where exactly do Snapnames get >> their data from? >> > >> > Joel Moss >> > Online Networks >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > =========================== >> > http://homepagenames.com >> > http://homepagetools.com >> > =========================== >> > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911 >> > icq: 69715613 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Joel Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Cc: "����������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:25 PM >> > Subject: Re: Grace period domains deletion >> > >> > >> > > We're assuming, of course, that SnapNames numbers are accurate to any >> > > degree. Yes, we allow the occasional deletion (we're not monsters over >> > > here) but we do ask you to ensure that when a domain is submitted, that >> > > it's correct and paid for. Sometimes mistakes happen, sometimes we >> delete >> > > domains. >> > > >> > > Even then, if this number IS accurate (let's just suppose) then it >> > > accounts for less than .25% of our total registrations (give or >> take) and >> > > is quite a low number (hrm...) >> > > >> > > Still, I think the methodology used by snapnames (because they don't >> have >> > > access to registry data, and are extrapolating in some manner or >> another) >> > > is incorrect. >> > > >> > > Charles Daminato >> > > TUCOWS Product Manager >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Joel Moss wrote: >> > > >> > > > He's got a point there! Can anyone at Tucows explain that one? >> > > > >> > > > Joel Moss >> > > > Online Networks >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > =========================== >> > > > http://homepagenames.com >> > > > http://homepagetools.com >> > > > =========================== >> > > > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911 >> > > > icq: 69715613 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: ���������� >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:26 PM >> > > > Subject: Re: Grace period domains deletion >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > what i don't get is why if it is true snapnames reported >> > > > >> > > > > TUCOWS/OpenSRS 7,576 >> > > > >> > > > with the second most domain deletions of all registrars when >> resellers are NOT allowed to delete domains? >> > > > >> > > > am i missing something? >> > > > >> > > > i really hate calling customers who mispelled their name or >> accidently registered the domain years for 10 instead of 1(usually >> > happens cause of accidently rolling the rolling thingie on mouse's) >> and tell them they can't cancel their domain because TUCOWs does >> > not allow it. most ICANN accredited registars allow deletions which >> pisses many customers off arguing why we can't do it for them >> > but some other site X can. but i really didn't give it much thought >> thinking TUCOWs was not allowing deletions... but from the >> > snapnames report it would seem TUCOWS was actually deleting *MUCH* >> MORE domains then other registrars, while telling most(?) >> > resellers that deletions were not allowed >> > > > >> > > > someone plz explain? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > ���� ���: JoelMoss >> > > > �� ���: �ڿ뱸 >> > > > ���� ��¥: 2001�� 11�� 5�� ������ ���� 8:34 >> > > > ����: Re: Grace period domains deletion >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I maybe presuming here, but if Tucows is supposed to offer >> deletions within the 5 day grace period to registrants, then surely >> > that >> > > > >> > > > feature must then be extended to its resellers (us)! I seem to >> remember something being mentioned about this a while back, but >> > from >> > > > >> > > > what I see, nothing became of it. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I would like to officially request that resellers be allowed to >> send as many deletion requests as we need to Tucows within the 5 >> > day >> > > > >> > > > grace period, as trhis is effectively what ICANN say they must >> allow, yet TUCOWS only allows us one deletion - ever!! >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Joel Moss >> > > > >> > > > Online Networks >> > > > >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > > =========================== >> > > > >> > > > http://homepagenames.com >> > > > >> > > > http://homepagetools.com >> > > > >> > > > =========================== >> > > > >> > > > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911 >> > > > >> > > > icq: 69715613 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > >> > > > From: "Sergei Kolodka" >> > > > >> > > > To: >> > > > >> > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:28 PM >> > > > >> > > > Subject: Grace period domains deletion >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hello discuss-list, >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Cite from "Editorial Update: State of the Domain, >> > > > >> > > > > Third Quarter 2001" by SnapNames: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The following lists the number of names in this group >> > > > >> > > > > that had been registered and canceled within the five >> > > > >> > > > > day grace period at the most affected registrars: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > VeriSign Registrar 12,340 >> > > > >> > > > > TUCOWS/OpenSRS 7,576 >> > > > >> > > > > Register.com 2,322 >> > > > >> > > > > DotRegistrar 731 >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Am i missed something and domain deletions within >> > > > >> > > > > grace period now part of OpenSRS API ? >> > > > >> > > > > Or SnapNames wrong in digits ? >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > > Best regards, >> > > > >> > > > > Sergei Kolodka >> > > > >> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >Scott Allan >Director OpenSRS >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
