Yup - We were scratching our heads as well on this stat - we are investigating, with the going assumption (mine anyways) being the SN logic (and therefore data) is flawed. If we are wrong, we will post...
sA At 09:40 AM 11/5/01 -0500, Charles Daminato wrote: >*shrug* I'd be speculating if I knew - I'd suppose they'd use a variety >of sources, such as zone file crunching, some whois polling for minor >verification, maybe star gazing and intestine stirring. > >Honestly, I really don't know - we actually find this number to be quite >high ourselves (excessively so) > >Charles Daminato >TUCOWS Product Manager >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Joel Moss wrote: > > > OK, thanks for clarifying that Chuck. Where exactly do Snapnames get > their data from? > > > > Joel Moss > > Online Networks > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > =========================== > > http://homepagenames.com > > http://homepagetools.com > > =========================== > > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911 > > icq: 69715613 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Joel Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "����������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:25 PM > > Subject: Re: Grace period domains deletion > > > > > > > We're assuming, of course, that SnapNames numbers are accurate to any > > > degree. Yes, we allow the occasional deletion (we're not monsters over > > > here) but we do ask you to ensure that when a domain is submitted, that > > > it's correct and paid for. Sometimes mistakes happen, sometimes we > delete > > > domains. > > > > > > Even then, if this number IS accurate (let's just suppose) then it > > > accounts for less than .25% of our total registrations (give or take) and > > > is quite a low number (hrm...) > > > > > > Still, I think the methodology used by snapnames (because they don't have > > > access to registry data, and are extrapolating in some manner or another) > > > is incorrect. > > > > > > Charles Daminato > > > TUCOWS Product Manager > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Joel Moss wrote: > > > > > > > He's got a point there! Can anyone at Tucows explain that one? > > > > > > > > Joel Moss > > > > Online Networks > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > =========================== > > > > http://homepagenames.com > > > > http://homepagetools.com > > > > =========================== > > > > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911 > > > > icq: 69715613 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: ���������� > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:26 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Grace period domains deletion > > > > > > > > > > > > what i don't get is why if it is true snapnames reported > > > > > > > > > TUCOWS/OpenSRS 7,576 > > > > > > > > with the second most domain deletions of all registrars when > resellers are NOT allowed to delete domains? > > > > > > > > am i missing something? > > > > > > > > i really hate calling customers who mispelled their name or > accidently registered the domain years for 10 instead of 1(usually > > happens cause of accidently rolling the rolling thingie on mouse's) and > tell them they can't cancel their domain because TUCOWs does > > not allow it. most ICANN accredited registars allow deletions which > pisses many customers off arguing why we can't do it for them > > but some other site X can. but i really didn't give it much thought > thinking TUCOWs was not allowing deletions... but from the > > snapnames report it would seem TUCOWS was actually deleting *MUCH* MORE > domains then other registrars, while telling most(?) > > resellers that deletions were not allowed > > > > > > > > someone plz explain? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > ���� ���: JoelMoss > > > > �� ���: �ڿ뱸 > > > > ���� ��¥: 2001�� 11�� 5�� ������ ���� 8:34 > > > > ����: Re: Grace period domains deletion > > > > > > > > > > > > I maybe presuming here, but if Tucows is supposed to offer > deletions within the 5 day grace period to registrants, then surely > > that > > > > > > > > feature must then be extended to its resellers (us)! I seem to > remember something being mentioned about this a while back, but > > from > > > > > > > > what I see, nothing became of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to officially request that resellers be allowed to > send as many deletion requests as we need to Tucows within the 5 > > day > > > > > > > > grace period, as trhis is effectively what ICANN say they must > allow, yet TUCOWS only allows us one deletion - ever!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joel Moss > > > > > > > > Online Networks > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > =========================== > > > > > > > > http://homepagenames.com > > > > > > > > http://homepagetools.com > > > > > > > > =========================== > > > > > > > > tel/fax: (44) 1257 794911 > > > > > > > > icq: 69715613 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Sergei Kolodka" > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:28 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Grace period domains deletion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello discuss-list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cite from "Editorial Update: State of the Domain, > > > > > > > > > Third Quarter 2001" by SnapNames: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following lists the number of names in this group > > > > > > > > > that had been registered and canceled within the five > > > > > > > > > day grace period at the most affected registrars: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VeriSign Registrar 12,340 > > > > > > > > > TUCOWS/OpenSRS 7,576 > > > > > > > > > Register.com 2,322 > > > > > > > > > DotRegistrar 731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am i missed something and domain deletions within > > > > > > > > > grace period now part of OpenSRS API ? > > > > > > > > > Or SnapNames wrong in digits ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > Sergei Kolodka > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Allan Director OpenSRS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
