Regarding positioning of the RSP info:

My preference is to put it either at the bottom below the name servers, or 
just above the name servers -- or elsewhere at or near the bottom.  But, 
don't put it in the middle of the other 3 contacts, nor at the top.

Of course, making the positioning selectable by RSP is another option.  :)

Doug

At 01:12 PM 11/26/01, you wrote:

>I'm with Rich on this one.  There is no consensus.  :)
>
>Since everybody wants it in a different place, how hard would it be
>to give everybody what they want?  If you're adding to the logic that
>pulls RSP info from a table, why not also have a small table that
>holds "whois elements order" ?  You currently spit out "org admin tech
>billing dns" with rsp display controlled by an additional boolean.
>Number the NON-rsp elements 1 through 5, then give either the RSP the
>ability to select which of the elements the RSP info should follow.
>
>My personal favourite would be to have it after the name servers, like
>a "footer" to the WHOIS.  And I BEG you not to say "for technical
>support ... please contact ...", or at least make the paragraph
>optional, so that RSPs can select output that best represents the type
>of business they're in.  Some of us are selling registration along with
>hosting, others push domain sales to anyone and everyone.  I *do not*
>provide technical support on all the domains I register ... I just
>register 'em.
>
>And if other registrars are silly enough not to use the admin contact
>for transfer authorization, they're doing their customers a great
>service by forcing them to stay with OpenSRS.  ;)
>
>p
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:35:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >>> We can move it anywhere, likely below technical I suppose (seems to be
> > the
> > general consensus)<<<
> >
> > Well, I'm not sure there is any concensus. :) I believe everyone wants 
> it in
> > a different place. However, for the record, I believe the reseller
> > information should be distinct from the domain/contact information. It
> > should be placed either:
> >
> > (1) Immediately above the domain record, right after the registrar line (my
> > preference)
> >
> > -or-
> >
> > (2) Immediately after the domain record, which would mean after the
> > nameservers.
> >
> > Rich Shockney
> > RS Marketing
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 12:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: RSP information in whois
> >
> >
> > The logic for moving the RSP information was due to the fact that many
> > registrars (incorrectly) parse the first email address they see for
> > transfers.  With our current setup that means the RSP info is parsed
> > (whoops).
> >
> > We can move it anywhere, likely below technical I suppose (seems to be the
> > general consensus)
> >
> > As for the fields, I can put it this way:
> >
> > 1 - optional
> > 2 or 3 or 4 - any combination, but one MUST be there.
> >
> > Charles Daminato
> > OpenSRS Product Manager
> > Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: November 26, 2001 11:59 AM
> > > To: Charles Daminato; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: RSP information in whois
> > >
> > >
> > > Charles, perhaps you could explain the logic for the current and proposed
> > > placement of the reseller information?
> > >
> > > Currently the reseller information is munged among the domain contact
> > > information. The new proposal simply moves the reseller information 
> deeper
> > > inside the contact information.
> > >
> > > The reseller information should be at the TOP just below the
> > > Tucows info and
> > > immediately above the registrant information:
> > >
> > > Registrar
> > > Reseller
> > > Registrant
> > > ...
> > >
> > > The change to "Registration Service Provider" is a good one, since 
> this is
> > > the legal entity by which resellers are called in our agreement with
> > > Tucows/OpenSRS.
> > >
> > > Fields:
> > >
> > > Field 4 is listed as "URL required (one of 2, 3, or 4). This is a little
> > > confusing. I assume the URL is required so that is neither field 2, or 3.
> > >
> > > Also, I interpret fields #2 and #3 to state that one of the fields (#2 or
> > > #3) must not be completed. They may not both be blank but they may 
> both be
> > > completed. Is this correct?
> > >
> > > Rich Shockney
> > > RS Marketing
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:29 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RSP information in whois
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, it's a couple of weeks late, but here is a proposal for changes to
> > > this mechanism.  I'd love your feedback (on or off list).
> > >
> > > RSP info in WHOIS Improvements
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > > -   move RSP Whois output to be below Administrative contact,
> > > above Technical
> > > and Billing
> > > -   Change wording to say �Registration Service Provider�
> > > -   Fields should be:
> > >     1.      Company name (optional)
> > >     2.      Admin email required OR
> > >     3.      Phone number required OR
> > >     4.      URL required (one of 2, 3, or 4)
> > >             �       Ensure URL has http:// at beginning, and no
> > > invalid characters
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think :)
> > >
> > > Charles Daminato
> > > OpenSRS Product Manager
> > > Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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