I am concerned that asking for a chargeback is in effect an accusation of 
fraud. If Netsol chose to argue the chargeback on the basis that it was 
Tucows that did not honour the renewal date, I have no evidence in any 
direction. I merely have contradictory assertions. That is why I am looking 
for some kind of objective evidence.

At 18:31 16/01/2002, Robert Rivers wrote:
>We can send you the Registry report from Verisign. Let NSI argue with 
>itself :)

Do please, Robert, thank you very much.

>FWIW, this happens all the time. It is a limitation of the Registry. We
>avoid it by allowing domains past due to be transferred.

On the other hand, Bill@daze said: "The Registry protocol automatically 
adds one year to the current
expiration date during a registrar transfer.  The gaining and losing 
registrars have no control over this."

Is the Registry protocol documented somewhere I can access?  But as you can 
see, even here we have different accounts of what the automatic behaviour 
is. That is why I cannot rely merely on assertions, I need evidence.

I cannot simply rely on a stated general *policy* of Tucows of extending a 
renewal date. Netsol can produce an invoice showing a renewal date of 2002. 
I could argue that that is an invoice, not a transfer record, and is a 
different system. If I am claiming on the basis of a system failure, I have 
no proof on which side the failure was.

Thank you all very much for your detailed responses.

Regards

Patrick O'Beirne



  Patrick O'Beirne, Director.
  Systems Modelling Ltd., Ireland.
  http://www.sysmod.com/

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