> Yes, I to find dealing with CIRA for just about anything many orders of
> magnitude more difficult than Verisign-NSI.  Perhaps if the members of the
> CIRA board had to change an organization name on a domain, transfer it,
> register a new domain for a municipality, etc., etc., things might change.

Sorry to shoot you down but I am on the board and am also one of the
larger registrars. I deal with the day to day issues and on the whole
we're very content with the CIRA implementation. You can get a domain
active in 3 hours normally. You can transfer a domain's ownership in under
5 minutes.

4 of the 12 members are direct registrars.
2 additional members are related to registars (including the registrar rep
who is directly affiliated with OpenSRS).

Is CIRA perfect? No. There are things we're working on improving. However
is CIRA this evil thing that nobody can work with? Seems to only be the
people who live on this list.

I find it very difficult to deal with some of the claims on this list
because they all revolve around claims that it is too difficult for you to
read a form before filling it out or keeping up with specs that attempt to
lessen the support burden.

AS for the burden of CPR challanges and such. There is a system to verify
the Canadian Presence rules. A recent survey showed that Canadians
overwhelmingly want some way of ensuring dot-CA is for Canadians.

If you have a proposal that would do some degree of CPR validation you can
let us know. We'd love to hear it.

> If I had a choice, I would simply not offer .ca domains at all.  And this
> wholeTBR registration period is repleat with holes, oversights and issues.  I
> feel yourpaid man.  However, dealing with OpenSRS is an absolute pleasure, so I can
> put up with all the incompetence, for now...

I addressed your TBR stuff in a previous email.

I can't speak for the problems you experience because of OpenSRS API and
the way they chose to implement dot-CA. It's a thick registry and thus
doesn't work the same way Verisign does.




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