Bringing the prospect of invalid email addresses into it opens another line of debate. Sure, the CIRA process is much more onerous, but the end result is you are left with a much higher incidence of *valid* email addresses on file in the admin contact slot.
What about the probably 2 or 3 million domains worldnic registered with that [EMAIL PROTECTED] nonsense in all three contacts? Tell me that is better than CIRA. It isn't, its an outright travesty and one that can't occur under the CIRA system. I do agree with your point about tech contacts, it would be good to allow those to if not modify admin contacts then at least confirm an ECAC request. Or for that matter the ctc_second_email field, which as far as I can tell is completely unused under any circumstance. -mark On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Kris Benson wrote: > Mark Jeftovic wrote: > > > > I've been offline for a few days, so sorry if this thread is old. But > > whenever I hear people crying the blues about CIRA and saying they > > can't do anything right I always have to pipe up and say one thing > > which usually hits home: > > > > Registrar transfers from beginning to end in under 10 minutes. > > > > Tell me that doesn't rock and that Verisign can even come close. > > That's great, Mark. But that's assuming that the registrant has the CIRA > account & password that was sent with a very machine-readable look to it, > causing it to be deleted by many. > > Now, you're going to argue that I can easily have it resent. Well, not > necessarily. If the client has changed e-mail addresses without informing > us/CIRA, then the change wasn't made. Now, we're in a Catch-22. No > e-mail so we can't get the password and no password so we can't change the > e-mail. > > What's left? Well, a fax to OpenSRS which hopefully causes something to > happen in the next not-too-long period of time. > > How is Verisign better? They let me, as Technical contact, modify the > domain. They let me change the admin contact. This means that when a > client says "yes I'll transfer" I change the admin contact to *me* then I > can approve it all from this end without having to worry about Verisign's > stupid and misleading messages. > > This is also how CDN*Net did a better job of managing the .CA namespace -- > as tech contact I could change the admin contact. Sometimes the > "technical" contact is responsible for technical information such as > street address and e-mail address for the contacts. > > Possible solutions to CIRA's issues: > 1. allow tech contact to modify domains > 2. alleviate the burden by using domain/password instead of > account/password > 3. alleviate the burden by allowing user-assignable account/username and > user-assignable password. > 4. give registrars the contractual ability to modify a domain based on > *their* authentication (read: I make a change in manage.opensrs.net and it > doesn't need to be approved at cira.ca) > > The junk we're facing right now WRT changing RANT type, but needing to > have *that* authenticated at CIRA is pushing me to suggest a price > increase on our .CA sales from CA$65/yr to significantly more, if only to > discourage registrations and/or recover our losses. > > Can we expect to see a change in this realm in the nearer future? > > -kb > -- > Kris Benson > ABC Communications > +1 (250)612-5270 x204 > +1 (888)235-1174 x204 > -- mark jeftovic http://www.easydns.com http://mark.jeftovic.net
