Paul Andersen wrote: > > Does this mean that OpenSRS who will only send the OpenSRS username and > password to the admin contact for dot-com is stupid too? > > Just a question.
No, because that is information that we put in. We maintain the U:P combo for our customers, providing it to them when they ask. > > This is also how CDN*Net did a better job of managing the .CA namespace -- > > as tech contact I could change the admin contact. Sometimes the > > "technical" contact is responsible for technical information such as > > street address and e-mail address for the contacts. > > Same as above. This is the old regime and the newer regimes dont allow > that. Sure they do. It depends on the registrant-registrar arrangement. > > 1. allow tech contact to modify domains > > No. Why not? > > 2. alleviate the burden by using domain/password instead of > > account/password > > No. The OpenSRS system is proprietary. You can't force OpenSRS to use our > system and there is a universe beyond OpenSRS and other registrars need to > be allowed to have their own system. And they do have they're own systems. I've worked with a couple of them. They're very similar to OpenSRS, but the relationship between them and CIRA is even worse to work with than OpenSRS. > > 3. alleviate the burden by allowing user-assignable account/username and > > user-assignable password. > > Thats not actually a bad idea. If I'm the first to have suggested that, I'm truly amazed. > > 4. give registrars the contractual ability to modify a domain based on > > *their* authentication (read: I make a change in manage.opensrs.net and it > > doesn't need to be approved at cira.ca) > > I'll assume that you understand the arguement that CIRA wants to ensure > that the organization in question is making the request to change the > information. I understand it, but don't agree with it. A .com is worth far more than a .ca -- why do we have to be more anal than the gTLD's? > Why? Because we don't believe that enough make it clear (or even let the > customer know) that you have such a token. I'm not seeing your point here. The client trusts us with their credit card, and with the registration, why shouldn't they trust us with continued maintenance (providing they keep paying us). > So my solution to you is simple. If the organization is willing to trust > you that much then why don't you just list yourself as the admin contact > when you register the domain name? Having more than one contact is a good thing, in case one disappears. It's also the admin contact that is responsible for the sale of the domain (and billing). > Really thats what your suggesting. If we trust the tokens then we don't > need the admin contact really since you the ISP have the tokens and can > just make the changes for them. Sure... though the admin contact could have the tokens, too. > It's really the same thing with the exception that your client knows fully > what you can do. You must understand that the whois information is used for much more than CIRA knowing who to talk to. It's also used by end users who want to purchase a domain from someone, inform them about a server outage, etc. > You mean the legal type? Why is this such a big deal? I think your problem > here is with OpenSRS because this is a simple (and I'm 99% sure > non-authenticated). If you mean changing the registrant name itself see > above. Nope. CIRA sends a message saying it needs authentication for the change of critical information. It seems I fit into the 1% uncertainty here. That's just changing the registrant type. > A mechanism to allow registrars to change admin contact is a possibility > (it was always the long term intention). However that is registrar *staff* > and not their resellers. We can't hold you accountable the same way we > hold a reseller accountable. Why not? It is our legal butts on the line if we changed it. > Your password picking idea isn't half bad though. I've scribbled it down > on my list. Great! Can we pick the username, too? Or perhaps just use our domain to reference the account? -kb -- Kris Benson ABC Communications +1 (250)612-5270 x204 +1 (888)235-1174 x204
