That's what I figured. ;o) We usually have to submit them multiple times. Believe it or not, they usually get transferred. We have even had them transferred on the last day of expiration before after several attempts. It's as though their system just picks and chooses at will and doesn't matter what domain name etc... or who owns it. Very strange how they work... No real logic like Chuck's logic. HeHe!
-- Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.4CheapDomains.Net (812) 275-8425 - Office (815) 364-1278 - Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Karkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Doug Friend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "discuss-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: Re: VeriSign/NetSol 30 day period > Hi; > > Before this gets out of hand I'd like to clear up a few things about the > Tucows Compliance/Transfers department. > > We *can't* help you get a transfer from NSI/Register.com or any other > registrar magically pushed through. > > If I could do this, I'd be asking for a lot more payola from resellers ; ) > *kidding* > > What ahs happened in the past is that at varying times NSI has come to their > senses and contacted compliance to tell us that if we get a transfer > initiated that NSI will then ack it through. > > But, this is usually because the end user or reseller has been persistent in > getting under NSI's skin or showing them the 'light'. > > I don't know exactly what the route is or what is involved in making NSI > stand up and take notice, all I can tell you is that I get a call from NSI > asking me to have a domain transfer re-re-initiated and they comply with the > request. > > Usually this means that the domain has had *a lot* of failed transfer > attempts. > > As for us calling up NSI and asking them to by pass their 30 day rule or any > other nack rule that they have concocted, I have tried to do this in the > past, but they are pretty insistent that end users must jump through their > (NSI's) hoops and that the only time this will be bypassed is when NSI > determines it to be so. > > Hope this resolves your questions. > > Paul Karkas > Compliance Officer OpenSRS > Tucows Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 416-535-0123 ext 1625 > 1-800-371-6992 > fax 416-531-2516 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Friend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "discuss-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: VeriSign/NetSol 30 day period > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > I'm sure why you'd not think compliance can be of help in this kind of > case. > > Registrars have contacts between themselves that you and I and our > customers > > don't. In a case like this, while NSI is abiding by their policy, they're > > clearly not in compliance with the ICANN guidelines for transfers. A call > to > > the right place can push a domain through. > > > > If you haven't tried the compliance route, I'd give it a shot. If it > works, it > > will save your client from a fair bit of paperwork. > > > > Doug. > > > > Quoting Mike Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Compliance has never helped me with a transfer. I didn't see what more > they > > > could do to get a domain transferred when their are 30 less days left. > If > > > the other registry is telling us no transfers, why would they change it > for > > > compliance? > > > > > > Pretty curious ;o) They way these companies have been playing ball I > would > > > have never dreamed SRS compliance could be of any help... > > > -- > > > Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.4CheapDomains.Net > > > (812) 275-8425 - Office > > > (815) 364-1278 - Fax > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Doug Friend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:34 AM > > > Subject: Re: VeriSign/NetSol 30 day period > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > > > I think we've all seen this from VRSN. Compliance has been helpful in > the > > > past > > > > in getting these pushed through. If all else fails though, a change > back > > > works > > > > pretty well too, though this puts the burden on the client to get > their > > > money > > > > refunded. > > > > > > > > Quoting Mike Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Jamie - Lists > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:26 PM > > > > > Subject: VeriSign/NetSol 30 day period > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NetSol/VeriSign has given me problems in the past regarding one of > > > their > > > > > 'somtimes-enforced' policies. Namely, they will not allow a > transfer of > > > > > registrars within 30 days of a renewal date. For example, if my > domain > > > > > expires on July 30th, I have to initiate (and complete) a transfer > of > > > > > registrars by the end of June, or else VeriSign will simply NOT send > the > > > ACK > > > > > email to the admin contact. When questioned on this policy, they > refer > > > to > > > > > their TOS, but I have looked it over with a fine tooth comb and > cannot > > > find > > > > > anything mentioning this particular policy. Now, my question is > this: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Who at VeriSign can I confront about this? Their domain techs > say > > > that > > > > > they're not allowed to discuss the TOS. > > > > > > > > > > You will not get a hold of anyone helpful. You will be lucky if > you do > > > not > > > > > get left on hold and you will be lucky if it is someone that can > speak > > > the > > > > > same language as you. Even if you do speak to anyone of may be > "Helpful" > > > > > nothing will ever come of it from past experiences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Is this a legit rule? ICANN says nothing about it, yea or > nay? > > > > > > > > > > ;o) > > > > > > > > > > 3. If noone at VeriSign will speak up about it, who else can I > turn > > > to > > > > > (besides God)? > > > > > > > > > > Renew, move it and do a charge back. That is the ONLY option that > you > > > have. > > > > > It will only cause their stocks to drop even more and I sure won't > cry > > > > > because of that. I will throw a block party though ;o) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jamie Price > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://www.HostMySite.com > > > > > Get your FREE .com, .net, .org, .biz and .info domain name at > > > > > HostMySite.com! > > > > > Phone: International 302.731.4948 | Toll Free: 877-215-4678 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Doug. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Doug Friend > > > > http://register4less.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Doug. > > > > -- > > Doug Friend > > http://register4less.com > >
