1) Fred: Thanks for pulling up that Wikipedia article! Yeah, it would be cool to reappropriate the St. John's Cross for our purposes, but I'm kind of questioning if this is going to do it. In this context, it is definitely going to be read as the Apple command icon, not anything else.
2) Kevin: I feel you on where you're coming from with this. As a no-time Mac user and full-time Ubuntu-on-a-PC user, I guess it threw me off because I'm so used to my ctrl key. If you had used "ctrl", it probably 1) wouldn't have looked as cool and 2) would have been similarly alarming to Mac users. BUT, that said...I'm pretty concerned with how successful at "freewashing" Apple is as a corporation. Maybe I'm totally off the mark, but my sense is that Mac has been promoting its products as hip & cool and, somehow, ethically * better* than Windows. A lot of free software supporters scoff at using Windows but are totally comfortable running OS X, and that worries me (because clearly Ubuntu ftw). SO: my proposed alternatives: * Getting rid of the Squiggle and just having C X V tiled? It might take people a while to 'get it', but the design might look more coherent anyway. * Using the cut/copy/paste icons that I love oh so much at the bottom of the page? (Con: Are those too associated with Office or some such thing? In that case, I'm more up for liberating those than the St. John's Cross thing...) 3) Kevin again: It's true, we're way too uncontrollably hip for our own good. <3 Christina (Sorry if this email made no sense, I blame it on altitude & natural gas production-related fumes) On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Kevin Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > As a part-time Mac user and full-time free software supporter, I made > that graphic to mean "cut-copy-paste". I thought of the implications > on using an icon closely associated with Apple but couldn't think of a > similar generic one. > > While we can always better promote freedom, I am afraid we're going to > have trouble being less hip. > > Kevin > > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Matt Lee wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Christina Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >>> Question: Why is the Mac command button thing being used as an icon? > >>> Was it purely an aesthetic choice? 'Cause, in case you forget, Macs are > >>> kiiind of proprietary all over the place. > >> > >> What she said. > > > > It's a bit late, since I'm on the conf08 list too and could have spoken > up > > there too (mea culpa), but I agree with Matt's and Christina's feelings > > here. > > > > If there's any hope of making the conference less "hip" and > Mac-promoting, > > and instead more clear that it promotes freedom, I'd appreciate that! > > > > -- Asheesh. > > > > -- > > Conversation enriches the understanding, but solitude is the school of > genius. > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > -- > )_)_)_)_)_)_ > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >
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