I'm not willing to change the background myself only because it seems really low on my conference-prep priority list. I'm open to changing it if someone else does the lion's share of the work and it works with the design we have going. Sorry to be inflexible, there's just a ton to do.
Starting another thread re: #2. Another pet peeve of mine. Kevin On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Christina Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Fred: Thanks for pulling up that Wikipedia article! Yeah, it would be > cool to reappropriate the St. John's Cross for our purposes, but I'm kind of > questioning if this is going to do it. In this context, it is definitely > going to be read as the Apple command icon, not anything else. > > 2) Kevin: I feel you on where you're coming from with this. As a no-time Mac > user and full-time Ubuntu-on-a-PC user, I guess it threw me off because I'm > so used to my ctrl key. If you had used "ctrl", it probably 1) wouldn't have > looked as cool and 2) would have been similarly alarming to Mac users. BUT, > that said...I'm pretty concerned with how successful at "freewashing" Apple > is as a corporation. Maybe I'm totally off the mark, but my sense is that > Mac has been promoting its products as hip & cool and, somehow, ethically > better than Windows. A lot of free software supporters scoff at using > Windows but are totally comfortable running OS X, and that worries me > (because clearly Ubuntu ftw). > > SO: my proposed alternatives: > * Getting rid of the Squiggle and just having C X V tiled? It might take > people a while to 'get it', but the design might look more coherent anyway. > * Using the cut/copy/paste icons that I love oh so much at the bottom of the > page? (Con: Are those too associated with Office or some such thing? In that > case, I'm more up for liberating those than the St. John's Cross thing...) > > 3) Kevin again: It's true, we're way too uncontrollably hip for our own > good. > > <3 > Christina > (Sorry if this email made no sense, I blame it on altitude & natural gas > production-related fumes) > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Kevin Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> As a part-time Mac user and full-time free software supporter, I made >> that graphic to mean "cut-copy-paste". I thought of the implications >> on using an icon closely associated with Apple but couldn't think of a >> similar generic one. >> >> While we can always better promote freedom, I am afraid we're going to >> have trouble being less hip. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Matt Lee wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Christina Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Question: Why is the Mac command button thing being used as an icon? >> >>> Was it purely an aesthetic choice? 'Cause, in case you forget, Macs >> >>> are >> >>> kiiind of proprietary all over the place. >> >> >> >> What she said. >> > >> > It's a bit late, since I'm on the conf08 list too and could have spoken >> > up >> > there too (mea culpa), but I agree with Matt's and Christina's feelings >> > here. >> > >> > If there's any hope of making the conference less "hip" and >> > Mac-promoting, >> > and instead more clear that it promotes freedom, I'd appreciate that! >> > >> > -- Asheesh. >> > >> > -- >> > Conversation enriches the understanding, but solitude is the school of >> > genius. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> )_)_)_)_)_)_ >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- )_)_)_)_)_)_ _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
