Andrei:

" In my experience, no. In fact, I've yet to find anything that followed a
UCD process that was what I would consider well designed. Often because the
people who practice this sort of thing tend to focus far too much on the
"user" part and less on the "design" part."

Two years ago when I started with this list you were saying the same
nonsense.

Please stop.

There are many of us who are excellent designers and have been for years. We
care a lot about the user and usability as well as design.

I got it. You think that UCD is wrong.

IMO, that is a superficial and shallow analysis of what UCD is really about.
It does nothing to advance our profession. 

And while there are lots of ways we can make design better, removing the
user as the central focus in not one of them.

Please -- no more unless and until you have something constructive to add.

(BTW, I will not respond further as I have no time or interest in
re-igniting the "flame wars" but I really think it would be better to think
a lot more critically than you appear to be doing rather than make blanket
statements that dismiss an entire 30 or so years of hard, deep and
thoughtful work. If you have "yet to find anything that followed a UCD
process that was what I would consider well designed," I would suggest that
says more about you than about the field.

Charlie

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Charles B. Kreitzberg, Ph.D.
CEO, Cognetics Corporation
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