On Dec 9, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Dec 9, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Jo Rhett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I don't feel that maintaining security at that level is truly plausible at a 
>> lopsa-like level.  In particular, how do you exclude Jo and Bob from both 
>> joining the list, when Bob is a senior sysadmin which is also Jo's 
>> supervisor? ;-)
> 
> When Bob is vetted to the list, Jo should definitely say "Ummmm, Bob is my 
> boss," and either "be ok with that" because he gets along with Bob, or say 
> so, and Bob is simply told. "Your request was denied."   Reasons for 
> candidates failure are always generic, "The vote did not go your way,"... 
> because any "no" vote is a veto.

Think of it chronologically flipped, though...  Bob is on the list first and 
then Jo asks to join and is heartily approved by Bob, thus opening Jo up to 
questions and concern over his own job.

--jms
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