On Dec 9, 2012 6:28 PM, "Jo Rhett" <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Ryan Frantz wrote: >> >> To be honest, if I've got to go to a semi-private list to vet an employer I'm considering, I should reconsider working for said employer. Networking (the people version) takes time and patience. It will yield much better results for the problem you put forward. > > The point of this list is to enable the human networking bit. Without said list, you can only deal with the people who know personally. LinkedIn can quickly show you that you don't know anyone who has or does work there. This list would provide a chance to "ask for connections"
You are correct: this list is a good starting point to field information. And it is also a good place to find people with whom to network. > > I live in Silicon Valley where startups are the main hiring force. When you are dealing with 30-60 people companies it may not be possible to network your way to someone who works there from just your own personal contacts. However, given that most startups fail and iterate, it can be very informative to find people who have worked for a given entrepreneur and learn a bit about their management style. Again, offnet human networking can't get you there in every situation. Agreed. There's no silver bullet. For anything. > > And when you are dealing with larger companies, the same rules apply: it matters more to learn about the team manager than it does to learn about the company as a whole. Not necessarily true. There is the overall company culture and the culture of the team you'll work with. Both are important to understand. I can heartily recommend working at certain companies in my resume. I would also caution against any role involving certain departments at said companies. > > It sounds like you only want to work at large employers that have already hired your friends. Great for you. This list is made for the rest of us :) I'm not certain how you imputed either my current employment nor my employment preferences. That notwithstanding, my main point is that the conversations you intend to foster are best for off-list, face-to-face conversations. The return is better for that than the investment into a semi-private mailing list. That is, indeed, my opinion. You can choose to consider it with all the others, or ignore it. Either way, good luck in your endeavor. Ryan > > -- > Jo Rhett > Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. > > >
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