Or we could just all use reddit.com/r/sysadmin ;-)
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Joseph Kern <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a pretty complicated problem ... being anonymous with trust. > But we could start like this: > > - Vet members at conferences > - Assign a pseudo anonymous tripcodes to each member (or even PGP/GPG > thumbprints) > - Group members into small circles of trust (3-4 max) > - Members may disclose to limited circles of trust (say three other > members of three different circles) who they really are. > - We have then just created an Inner Circle of LOPSA. > - Plan world conquest. > > Validating identity is pretty easy then, but verifying the actual > content is still hard. And what's to stop Jo from becoming a boss in > charge of someone else already on the list? > > If you can solve this problem, and make it easy for the end-user, you > might just have a winner. > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Ryan Frantz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Dec 9, 2012 6:28 PM, "Jo Rhett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Ryan Frantz wrote: >>>> >>>> To be honest, if I've got to go to a semi-private list to vet an employer >>>> I'm considering, I should reconsider working for said employer. Networking >>>> (the people version) takes time and patience. It will yield much better >>>> results for the problem you put forward. >>> >>> The point of this list is to enable the human networking bit. Without said >>> list, you can only deal with the people who know personally. LinkedIn can >>> quickly show you that you don't know anyone who has or does work there. This >>> list would provide a chance to "ask for connections" >> >> You are correct: this list is a good starting point to field information. >> And it is also a good place to find people with whom to network. >> >>> >>> I live in Silicon Valley where startups are the main hiring force. When >>> you are dealing with 30-60 people companies it may not be possible to >>> network your way to someone who works there from just your own personal >>> contacts. However, given that most startups fail and iterate, it can be very >>> informative to find people who have worked for a given entrepreneur and >>> learn a bit about their management style. Again, offnet human networking >>> can't get you there in every situation. >> >> Agreed. There's no silver bullet. For anything. >> >>> >>> And when you are dealing with larger companies, the same rules apply: it >>> matters more to learn about the team manager than it does to learn about the >>> company as a whole. >> >> Not necessarily true. There is the overall company culture and the culture >> of the team you'll work with. Both are important to understand. >> >> I can heartily recommend working at certain companies in my resume. I would >> also caution against any role involving certain departments at said >> companies. >>> >>> It sounds like you only want to work at large employers that have already >>> hired your friends. Great for you. This list is made for the rest of us :) >> >> I'm not certain how you imputed either my current employment nor my >> employment preferences. That notwithstanding, my main point is that the >> conversations you intend to foster are best for off-list, face-to-face >> conversations. The return is better for that than the investment into a >> semi-private mailing list. >> >> That is, indeed, my opinion. You can choose to consider it with all the >> others, or ignore it. Either way, good luck in your endeavor. >> >> Ryan >> >>> >>> -- >>> Jo Rhett >>> Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet >>> projects. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ >> > > > > -- > Joseph A Kern > [email protected] -- Joseph A Kern [email protected] _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
