I feel like I can't stay out of this.

Why do I need a chapter to schedule hangouts at 7ET, while Mario[1] schedules 
some hangouts for 7PT? And if Doug Hughes[2] decides he's staying up late 
tonight, he can "attend" Mario's 7PT session, even though he's on the east 
coast.

Again - you're talking about something that needs organizers, but not 
necessarily "chapters". 

D

[1] I'm not volunteering Mario. :-)
[2] Nor do I believe Doug Hughes would ever stay up late. He's like the 
crotchety old man asleep by 8, get off my lawn.

On May 9, 2014, at 1:21 PM, john boris <[email protected]> wrote:

> The one advantage I see to having multiple Virtual Chapters is time zones. So 
> an organizer on the West coast decides to hold the meetings at 8 PM. That is 
> 11 PM on the East coast. Also with Multiple Virtual Chapters there could be 
> multiple "Meetings" and people could then flock to the one that is most 
> convenient to their schedule.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Pamela Lynn Howell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> IMO, what is actually needed is the *organizer* for the virtual chapter, 
> whatever it may be called.
> 
> ---p
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On May 9, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Evan Pettrey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I think you're being a bit pedantic here and I'm not sure it is necessary or 
>> beneficial to the discussion.
> 
> I completely disagree. To ME, IMHO, going through this "virtual chapter" 
> process is an unnecessary use of the scarce resource we have called "time".
> 
> I think what he's talking about DOING is great. I think scheduling regular 
> hangouts, etc., is a great thing for LOPSA members to have and participate 
> in. I think consuming his time, the locals committee's time, etc., creating 
> such a "chapter", however, is completely wasted. It smells of the type of 
> "planning to plan" type of stuff that bogs down volunteer groups.
> 
> What does he want? Social/technical/learning experiences with other LOPSA 
> members who aren't geographically proximal? So make that happen, set up the 
> schedule for the hangouts, etc., but don't get bogged down in all the details 
> of the Locals policy, like figuring who the "chapter members" of record are, 
> who allow the chapter to maintain its charter, etc., etc.   Just schedule and 
> advertise the hangouts and let any member who wants to be involved be 
> involved.
> 
> Every expense of scarce volunteer time should have an actual net beneficial 
> outcome. Spending time on the virtual-chapter portion of this project doesn't 
> do that. (Spending time on the "meat" of this project has plenty of benefits, 
> obviously).
> 
> I've said my piece, at this point.  We're all grown-ups and can make our own 
> life choices. :-)
> 
> D
> 
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