I'm hoping this claim that we'd have to pay to attend our own DDF at ONS
gets revised. I've asked Casey/Phil/events-list to have the events staff
join this conversation directly vs having everything proxied through Casey.

With my Committer Board Member hat on, I'm also quite disappointed about
how this is going. We were told ONS would be the future for ODL's Summits,
with cost savings and collaboration goodness added by making it part of a
big umbrella. ODL contributed a huge amount of cash to LFN. We've been very
clear that we want to have a DDF at ONS for quite some time. It seems like
we should at least be able to get a free room for a few days at our own
~Summit.

Hoping we can find a good/clear conclusion soon,
Daniel

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:31 AM George Zhao <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Given current situation, will day pass option for Tue or Wed work for DDF?
> It will be even better if there is a developer discount for DDF.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Anil Vishnoi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2018 3:06 PM
> *To:* Brady Johnson
> *Cc:* OpenDaylight Discuss; Raymond Paik; TSC;
> [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [release] [OpenDaylight TSC] [OpenDaylight Discuss] ONS
> Developer Event
>
>
>
> For the open source technical community, no other event is as important as
> DDF, so if they have to pay for getting together to get the work done and
> plan the future of the project, i think it's disappointing :(.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Anil
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Brady Johnson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Casey confirmed to me in a private thread that those attending the ODL DDF
> on Monday and Tuesday will have to register for the ONS event. That's a
> deal breaker for me, I won't be attending the DDF if I'm forced to pay the
> ridiculously expensive ONS registration fee.
>
>
>
> Needless to say, I'm very disappointed in how this had been handled and
> organized.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Brady
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2018 14:48, "Abhijit Kumbhare" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have asked Phil this question on his email thread.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Anil Vishnoi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> If that's the case, then probably Option 1 is not really an option :).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Luis Gomez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I guess the only concern with option 1) is the one Brady brought: the high
> price (1.8K$?) people just interested in ODL DDF will have to pay if there
> is no free/reduced pass for ODL DDF. This can imo lower the DDF attendance
> so better get some clarification on this too.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Anil Vishnoi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> From Phil's mail, I personally would prefer option 1 or 2, because these
> options are way better than asking folks to travel on Saturday to attend
> one day event on Sunday and waste Monday again in travel. I believe common
> set of people who wants to attend ODL DDF and ONS event (paid registration)
> is very small, so we need to consider the remaining bigger set of people
> who are just looking for attending ODL DDF, because from ODL DDF
> perspective that's more important. From that perspective i think option 1
> is better and if that doesn't work than option 2 seems like an alternate,
> but not sure that will work well for the folks travelling international. So
> seems like Option 1 is the only option we have as of now, which i think is
> not a bad option.
>
>
>
> Anil
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Thanh Ha <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I think we have the following constraints (based on discussions at the TSC
> and another separate chat I had last Wednesday with Ray Paik and Casey):
>
>
>
>    - We cannot have just following the ONS due to Passover Friday March
>    30 to Saturday April 7 during which some members cannot attend. Also Friday
>    March 30 is not available at the venue.
>    - We cannot have DDF during the Monday-Tuesday of the ONS week - due
>    to the LFN cross collaboration
>    - Sunday March 25 is available and LFN would be able to arrange rooms
>    for the DDF
>    - Other days like Daniel's suggestion Thursday-Friday March 18-19 in
>    Los Angeles or somewhere else
>
>
>    - an appropriate venue at appropriate price would need to be found
>       - Folks traveling from abroad may not have the approval for an over
>       the weekend stay.
>       - Also folks coming for ONS as well may find it hard to stay from
>       Thursday March 18 to Thursday March 29
>
> Given these constraints - do we still want to pursue another option
> (Thursday-Friday March 18-19) compared to Sunday March 25?
>
>
>
> Please voice your opinions soon. Otherwise the original decision of Sunday
> March 25 would stand. As Luis mentioned - we would need to start booking
> travel.
>
>
>
> Phil's email [0] seems to throw a wrench into this whole thing. Sounds
> like Sunday is no longer available to us but Monday/Tuesday is. Or we will
> have to do it on another date and place.
>
>
>
> Thanh
>
>
>
> [0] https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2018-January/008679.html
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