-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 $40 is a lot for a student. I'd say $40 (or more, if they choose) for normal members, and $20 (or more, if they choose) for students.
Look at it this way - these are members we wouldn't have otherwise had, and when they're done there's a good chance they'll convert to (and be able to afford) full memberships. It's extra money, and more activity, both of which we need. We can also restrict the student memberships, if you feel it's necessary. Like David suggested, we could limit the hours they can visit, their ability to store stuff, or any other limitation that we think is a good idea. Personally, I don't think it's necessary. Ron On 2012-10-15 14:35, Justin Lacko wrote: > What kind of reduction are we looking at here? Is, say $10 a month > really the deciding factor for anybody for not becoming a member? > > I think $40 is already as cheap as we can go. If anything I'd say make > $40 the student rate and re-jigger (Mak's word) the regular member > rate. $40 is incredibly cheap for ~4200 sq. ft. of 24/7 access to a > space with tools, computers, a lounge, a budding arcade, and > developing electrical. > > On 15 October 2012 14:28, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hey guys, > > > > I'm forwarding along a suggestion from David Stewart, who's not > > currently a member but is interested in SkullSpace. Based on what he > > says, and some reading I've done, I think we should re-visit the idea of > > student memberships. > > > > I was traditionally against it, but I'm starting to come around. It > > helps that I re-read the hackerspace design patterns and it includes > > this one: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Membership_Fees_Pattern > > > > Which includes the text, "Collect fees regularly. Make no exceptions, > > ever. Choose an appropriate amount. Have discounts for students. Have at > > least three months of rent on your account, all the time, no exceptions. > > Elect a totalitarian treasurer." > > > > The issues I've had in the past with it - keeping everybody equal, etc - > > I think we can set aside for the purposes of getting more members / more > > interest / more events / etc. Another issue was how we manage it - and I > > think honour system is fine. If you're going to school full-time, and > > you tell us you are, that's good enough. If we don't believe you, then > > you probably shouldn't be a member anwyays. > > > > It would create extra work for Jay - to switch members from student to > > regular when necessary - so he definitely has a say in this. > > > > Students could, of course, choose to pay the full amount, if they'd > > like. :) > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Ron > > > > - ----- Forwarded message from David Stewart <[email protected]> > > ----- > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:15:37 -0500 > > From: David Stewart <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Skullspace student/casual memberships > > > > Hello Ron, > > > > Over the past year I have sporadically attended various events at > > Skullspace (Most notably Mak's C course) and while I would like to become a > > full member, there has always been a few things that have held me back > > (mostly due to lack of time). Compounding my existing lack of time problem > > is that since have I started school full time at the U of M, the amount of > > free time I have has taken a dive off a cliff. Furthermore, being a full > > time student, has rendered me more or less broke. > > > > I would like to contribute to the success of Skullspace, but $40 a > > month is beyond my reach financially for now, and quite frankly with my > > dwindling free time I could hardly spend any time at all at the space > > anyways. > > > > I'm sure you see where I am going with this, but I will ask the > > question directly.... Has there ever been discussion about memberships for > > student/casual members? - Perhaps key less if need be, and/or based on > > hours at the space per month, non-voting (or 1/2 of a vote), without a > > dedicated storage spot etc. ? I realize that this has the potential to be > > a slippery slope of "special treatment", but could a fair system be hashed > > out? To me it seems that this could help to open up membership to a wider > > audience and increase the amount of membership dues collected each month > > without causing a significant increase in operating > > costs.......Additionally, this could help to make Skullspace a more > > inclusive community. (Not that it is particularly exclusionary at the > > moment!) > > > > Anyways it's just a thought, I'll leave it to you and the Skullspace group > > to make the decisions on this, but feel free to ask me questions and I'll > > do my best to get back to you asap. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Stewart > > > > - ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlB8Y94ACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QmTQCg3asSucA+sQ7tmhyg3OZmEgDn > > P+oAn0uoAcEd3CF8plbHAAwB5h0jbcPe > > =ju56 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlB8Zl4ACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QXuQCeN9cBhaHWsMtE7gnsIFXY106C lecAoK+T1f8L+w7mNysPWivxUYbJjSql =zdPR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
