I appreciate your post very much, since it makes some sense now when editing
a textedit document with VO. It clarifies why I have been getting so
frustrated, since now all I have to remember, when editing a text, is from
what direction I am coming, left or right. I must say though that I prefer
simplicity, which is at the heart of using JAWS. with a PC. The character
in focus is voiced, and a press of the delete key either the backspace
delete, which deletes the character just prior to the spoken character , or
the forward delete will always delete the character spoken. With JAWS
inserting a character is always done to the left adjacent to the spoken
character. There is no need to remember from which direction you approached
the spoken character. In fact I do not know why VO could not be made to be
simple. I hope they make this possible in a future update of VO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Kilburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: TextEdit and Vo
Hi Harry,
I'll try to answer your questions although some of this has already been
covered.
1. When reading/editing text in TE, think like this, if you've passed
over a word/character from left to right, then the cursor is sitting at
the right of whatever you've passed over. Therefore, pressing the
"Delete" key will remove anything just to the left of it. conversely,
moving right to left, the cursor will be sitting just to the left of
whatever was just read to you. When inserting something,, remember which
direction you're coming from and place the cursor accordingly. You are
correct that it is probably your JAWS experience that is confusing the
issue. I had the opposite problem as I was a Mac user first and a JAWS
user second. It took me quite a while and frustration to learn how JAWS
dealt with things and as a matter of interest, I prefer the Mac as it
seems more logical to me. My opinion of course.
2. Closing/Saving stuff in TextEdit. One thing to note is that for the
most part, expecially in applicaitons, closing a Window only closes the
window or document, not the complete application. That is, if you close
a TE document using cmd+w or File menu and Close,, you still have the TE
application open whereas Quitting the application will Close and Quit it.
When doing either, if you have not already saved your changes, you will
be asked to do so. the default choice is to save it so pressing "Return"
will save it automatically. If the document has never been saved before,
then a dialog will appear giving you options for where to save it and
what name to give it. You can also navigate through "Do you Waant to
Save" dialogs using VO then pressing VO keys+space on the choice you wish
to apply.
3. i suggest you save any documents and quit all aps before logging off
or shutting down. this is just good computing practice and is far safer
than relying on your OS to remember that this wasn't done and therefore
asking you just before logging off or shutting down.
Hope this helps some. Keep the questions coming though, we're here to
help.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
& Carter the Canine
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
