I never mentioned JAWS but I sure remember those keystrokes. I do document and mail merges with formating that includes curning and now I hate the mention of JAWS.
On Apr 25, 2008, at 5:31 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

I never said I wanted them but one of the reasons people want them to be accessible is because other people use them. Also, as has been pointed out, advanced document development is beyond the capabilities of text edit and I'm not sure it would be accessible if it wasn't because a lot of advanced document processing is quite visual. Before you say that Jaws can do all this stuff in word, think about the effort it takes to do this in JAWS and from what I understand, unless you are trained well or used to be sighted,
that level of complexity is not totally achievable.

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HMMM then why do we want Pages, MS Word for Mac, Nisus Writer and the
such if Text Edit is good enough?
On Apr 25, 2008, at 5:08 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

what do you want to do.  Text edit will do formatting as has already
been
pointed out.

----- Original Message -----
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I guess, we will use what we use and it doesn't matter what I think.
If Text Editor is a Word processor to some then it is what it is. Text
Edit has word processing limitations. If typing
is all you want as far as functionality goes then MS Word and Pages is
over kill, but if text formatting is important then you'll need
something more robust.On Apr 25, 2008, at 4:04 PM, David Poehlman
wrote:

of course you can create a form in text edit, that's what html is
for and
you can do good html stuff in text edit.  I'm afraid what are called
word
processors today are overgrown well, text editors if you will.  Text
edit is
more of a word processor than word will ever be again if it ever
was.  Now,
We need a new name for them wps on steroids.

----- Original Message -----
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Yup, a text editor isn't a word processor. They have very distinct
functionality. Even though some have more than others you would never get by in the corporate world with Text Edit when formatting and such plays a major part in document editing and creation. What if you need to create a form? You couldn't dream of doing it in Text Edit. If you
could we wouldn't be trying to get I Work accessible.
On Apr 25, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


On Apr 25, 2008, at 1:31 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

Hi All,

I just got a message telling me that someone went to an apple store
to look
at Macs and when they asked if the mac came with a word processor,
the sales
person said no.

Well, considering that Apple considers TextEdit a text editor and
not a real full-blown word processor, I suppose they were correct.
Especially since they probably said, "But you can get iWork 08 for
$79." Mind you, the salesperson could have said, "Well, Leopard
comes with a text editor that has most of the word processor
functions that most people use", then asked what they wanted to do
with it mostly, then made a recommendation based on what the person
said they needed a word processor for, but maybe that's why I'm not
a salesperson.
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