On Monday, March 03, 2014 11:50:03 Craig Bergdorf wrote:
> If i may help summarize the mood as I saw it at the time for those in the
> back,
> 
> 48 is still very new, with double the space and a seemingly never ending
> list of projects: member's money is flying out the doors with no end in
> sight, the saying 'give till it hurts, then come back tomorrow' feels like
> it should be the motto.  The word from the treasurer is "we're broke -
> doubt we can afford heat, give me a receipt and i'll....  (magic?)", and
> the calender relentlessly approaches opening day.

The original estimation about heat was $900 based on the only information I 
knew about our MCF rate. It ended up being around $100. I'd be more than happy 
to sit down with you and show the accounting that shows we aren't broke. I 
would not be setting lofty goals of the original $1200 membership credit, $50 
monthly maintenance budget, $150 buildout budget, etc if we were desperately 
seeking funds.

I'm not sure where you've gotten the idea that we are or ever were broke. When 
I started working on the accounting I (imho) had been very transparent and 
consistently reiterated that we in fact have a lot more funds than was 
previously reported with plenty of evidence. I admit that the evidence was a 
bit murky, but then again, nobody asked me to work with them to understand it.

> 
> A member everyone loves at the moment generously offers to trade some space
> for some monthly cash (as if he hasn't donated enough already), and as a
> bonus, extra shelves to use as wall dividers until real walls can be
> afforded.  Who could possibly be against such a donation at that time?

Please don't bring up quantity of contributions as any kind of metric of a 
person's value. Please just no. That is a very very bad road to go down.

> 
> /end my mood at the time
> 
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Torrie Fischer 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> > On Monday, March 03, 2014 10:13:08 Omar Rassi wrote:
> > > My understanding from conversations at the space about this was that the
> > > racks would have plywood walls built onto them so that they can be
> > > separated from prying eyes and sticky hands. Nothing on those shelves
> > > should concern anyone but the Lessee and legal agents of the lessor. Is
> > > there a copy of the lease on the documents repo or filed on paper at
> > > Synhak??? I feel as Champion I should at least be familiar with the
> > 
> > details
> > 
> > > of the lease in order to help protect everyone's interests.
> > 
> > No, there is nothing. Some time ago there was a copy sent to bizops@, but:
> > 
> > * There was no board vote
> > * There was no proposal
> > * I've never seen a signed copy
> > * I raised issues with the version sent to bizops@ that were totally
> > ignored
> > 
> > Citations:
> > 
> > Original question:
> >   https://synhak.org/pipermail/bizops/2014-January/000053.html
> > 
> > Devin posted the lease to bizops@:
> >   https://synhak.org/pipermail/bizops/2014-February/000066.html
> > 
> > Raising issues:
> >   https://synhak.org/pipermail/bizops/2014-February/000068.html
> > 
> > No, there was no vote or proposal:
> >   https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003270.html
> > 
> > I am unable to find any mention of a sub-lease in meeting minutes prior to
> > the
> > above mails.
> > 
> > If the lease was signed without any formal discussion or approval, I would
> > feel that it is a massive breach of trust and possibly not even legally
> > binding.
> > 
> > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Torrie Fischer
> > 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > I am not comfortable with those racks that a board member is (in
> > 
> > theory)
> > 
> > > > leasing space for.
> > > > 
> > > > At today's open house, I saw numerous guests grabbing and poking
> > 
> > things. I
> > 
> > > > then put up signs and kept an eye on it. Didn't help. I've also
> > > > noticed
> > > > that a few synhak things are on the racks now.
> > > > 
> > > > If synhak is somehow liable for those racks, I have some questions
> > > > that
> > > > will be brought up on Tuesday:
> > > > 
> > > > When did the board approve such a situation or lease?
> > > > 
> > > > Where was the membership discussion about the use of space that does
> > 
> > not
> > 
> > > > contribute to hacking?
> > > > 
> > > > Is synhak liable for any damages or stolen equipment? What if some of
> > 
> > our
> > 
> > > > stuff ends up there?
> > > > 
> > > > If synhak is liable, does that mean the champions are required to
> > 
> > police
> > 
> > > > the racks? You'll never get members to do that.
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