+1 for @Wim Feijen's rewording but... I think the wording of the Group description isn't the issue, my guess is that people who make the mistake of asking django-user's questions in the django-developers mailing list didn't read the description to begin with.
> They are almost all from people whose first language is clearly not English, I haven't been following this mailing list for a particularly long time, but I can recall a number of cases where users were simply noobies looking for help, and didn't reading the description of this mailing list before asking their question. Whether they are native English speakers or not, clearer wording would mitigate the issue for everyone. > and in most cases one has the impression that successfully finding a place to > ask a question and writing a message expressing their question about Django > development is an achievement in itself for them. This seems rather condescending to new Django users. On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:19:25 AM UTC-4, Daniele Procida wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014, Robert Grant <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > >Totally agree Daniele. I don't know how other people experience the > group, > >but I actually didn't see the email address, and didn't even look at the > >URL. > > I'm not sure how much effect any of this will have. > > We get a few (I'd say about three or four) messages a week to > django-developers that should have gone to django-users. > > They are almost all from people whose first language is clearly not > English, and in most cases one has the impression that successfully finding > a place to ask a question and writing a message expressing their question > about Django development is an achievement in itself for them. > > As long as this email list is the first one that appears in a web serch > for things like "django developer email list", it's going to be where their > messages get sent. > > It may actually have more effect to change the name and description of > django-users, to "For developers working with Django" and "Discussion group > for developers working with the Django web framework: djangoproject.com. > New members and beginners are welcome". > > Daniele > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/1d6f3d48-6c5a-49db-b168-28d7c0ae3415%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
