On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, at 12:12 AM, James Bennett wrote: > > My first reaction to this is: if having a DEP that says the Technical Board > is supposed to take the lead in gathering feature proposals didn't get them > to do it, it doesn't feel like another DEP saying they're responsible for > that is going to fix it.
I agree. Me proposing the DEP changes is mostly merely formalising some other changes I want to catalyse here - the DEP is an outcome, not the start, here. > Getting burned out or overcommitted is a thing that happens, and a thing that > was anticipated in drafting the governance -- DEP 10 has a procedure for it! > > Why did no member of the Technical Board do that? Again, speaking for myself - because we were doing almost all the functions of the Board except for the feature canvassing. I also saw the relative lack of candidates for Board elections and essentially thought "better burnt-out me than literally nobody". > And from the sound of what you're saying in this thread, the Technical Board > is mostly communicating with itself about this, in private, when the > direction of Django is supposed to be worked out publicly and transparently. > That's why we shut down the old private communication spaces for the former > "core team" after DEP 10 was adopted. That is not the case - this thread is the majority of the discussion. I opened a thread on the TB mailing list in case people there wanted to give specific, blunt feedback about how they would feel about being affected by this as current Board members, but it has only a couple of replies, and nothing that hasn't been discussed here. > So forgive me for being blunt, but: if the Technical Board is not following > the governance we have, I think replacing the Technical Board's current > membership should be higher on the list of remedies than replacing the > governance. Forgive me for being blunt but... that seems like a really bad idea? The current board ran uncontested, so if all five of us step down I suspect there may not *be* a Board at the end of the day. The DSF Board's current difficulties finding candidates I think reinforces that fact - one of the changes I was considering bringing in here was "what if we have to reduce the TB to 4 or 3 people in the near future". Again, I'm not saying "we should write a new DEP and *that'll* fix it", I'm trying to come from a position of working out what we can and should be *doing*, and then ensuring our rules match that. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/e04f4e94-7466-4d58-b0d8-21a5e4ba3faa%40app.fastmail.com.
