Also wanted to mention

I noticed that while the plate amperes meter does not change when I increase 
the XMTR gain while trying to tune, the S units meter
does rise considerably, the 'PLATE AMPERES' meter actually decreases a tad not 
much only about half a division.

Also while I am listening to the morning show at 3843 I am in 'SIDEBAND' 'SSB' 
with the 'RF TUNE' control peaked and now the S meter
is reacting much better than it did before I cleaned the relay - but I am also 
noticing the 'PLATE AMPERES' meter moves slightly at
the 'S UNITS' meter reaches S 20 and above. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AD5VJ Bob
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:16 AM
> To: 'Mark Nace'; [email protected]; 'Drakelist'
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> 
>  Good morning everyone:
> 
> I stayed up last night and did the resistance checks. 
> 
> Found one tube (V17 - 6AQ5) which when checking it you could 
> warble the tube and the measurements would change drastically.
> 
> So I had another and changed it and now it is much more stable.
> 
> Thought I had found the problem and tried again to no avail. 
> So I took it apart again and cleaned the relay contacts. It 
> seems to be rx'ing better, but still wont transmit anything.
> 
> I am planning on doing voltage measurements today sometime, 
> unless anyone has another idea. 
> 
> It is such a laborious task I am open to another suggestion Hi Hi
> 
> Bob AD5VJ
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AD5VJ Bob
> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:46 PM
> > To: 'Mark Nace'; [email protected]; 'Drakelist'
> > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> > 
> >  Yeah there is not even the bulb holder in there. It looks 
> like it has 
> > been hard wired to the relay.
> > 
> > There is a small coax coming up from the underside. According to 
> > Garey's picture of the relay, the center conductor is soldered 
> > directly to 'RX ANT' the shield is soldered directly to ground.
> > 
> > Bob AD5VJ
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Nace [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:37 PM
> > > To: AD5VJ Bob; [email protected]; Drakelist
> > > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> > > 
> > > I think a lotta people just removed and by-passed the
> > signal overload
> > > bulb because of poor contact.  I have one on the slab right
> > now, and
> > > it has no bulb.
> > > 
> > > Also, about 99% of everything I know about Drake 
> Transceivers I got 
> > > from Garey and others on this reflector over the years !!!
> > They are
> > > great teachers.
> > > 
> > > mark
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: AD5VJ Bob <[email protected]>
> > > > To: [email protected]; Drakelist <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 9:17:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Garey
> > > > 
> > > > The bulb you are showing is not there. Could that be a problem?
> > > > 
> > > > Bob AD5VJ
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Garey Barrell [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:14 PM
> > > > > To: AD5VJ Bob; Drakelist
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bob -
> > > > > 
> > > > > Attached is the page from my CD with the relay contacts
> > > identified. 
> > > > > Should help you find what you need to check.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 73, Garey - K4OAH
> > > > > Glen Allen, VA
> > > > > 
> > > > > Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line&  TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > AD5VJ Bob wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes I can rx both usb and LSB with no problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  The rig is supposed to switch to the sideband
> > > appropriate for the
> > > > > >band which it does on all bands except for 40 meters. On 40
> > > > > it goes into usb not LSB for some reason and I have to
> > > switch it to
> > > > > X in order to get the LSB signals off of 40 meters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does the relay only have the upper contacts. I can see
> > > them moving
> > > > > > from the top after taking the top off, or do I have to take
> > > > > the relay out in order to clean any at the bottom of 
> the relay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob AD5VJ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: Mark Nace [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:44 PM
> > > > > >> To: AD5VJ Bob; [email protected]
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Bob,
> > > > > >> I would first turn everything off, unhook the TR-3
> > > from the power
> > > > > >> supply, and look at the frame T/R relay and make sure the 
> > > > > >> contacts are clean.  Once they are clean, I always do some 
> > > > > >> continuity measurements on the XMIT and RCV cathode
> > > lines to make
> > > > > >> sure they really are making good contact.  If this
> > is a no-go,
> > > > > >> make sure the relay tube is actually energizing the
> > > relay coil.
> > > > > >> Beyond that, if the 9 MHz BFO is not being shifted
> > > into the SSB
> > > > > >> filter passband (upper sideband filter I think), then
> > > there will
> > > > > >> be no
> > > > > drive at all.
> > > > > >>  Are you able to receive upper and lower sideband
> > QSO's okay? 
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Others will probably have more and better advice...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 73
> > > > > >> Mark
> > > > > >> N5KAE
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > >>      
> > > > > >>> From: AD5VJ Bob
> > > > > >>> To: [email protected]
> > > > > >>> Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 6:23:34 PM
> > > > > >>> Subject: [Drakelist] TR-3
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have a TR-3 and it is working fb on rx, except when
> > > > > going to the
> > > > > >>> procedures for tuning while using a dummy load as the
> > > > > >>>        
> > > > > >> antenna, on page
> > > > > >>      
> > > > > >>> 17 of the manual after presetting the controls as
> > > > > indicated, when I
> > > > > >>> get down to the:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 'advance the XMTR gain control clockwise until the plate
> > > > > >>>        
> > > > > >> amperes meter
> > > > > >>      
> > > > > >>> moves up scale slightly from idling current'
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It does not move up scale and I have no output when
> > > the function
> > > > > >>> switch is set to X-CW per two different watt meters I have
> > > > > >>>        
> > > > > >> put inline
> > > > > >>      
> > > > > >>> with the dummy load.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> All the tubes light up and seem to be functioning 
> properly.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Any ideas?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Bob AD5VJ
> > > > > >>>        
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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