I am relatively new to dspam and am not a moderator of this list so I
speak with no authority.
In the few months I have been monitoring this list and working toward
improving my knowledge of dspam Stevan has been very helpful, kind and
generous with this time. Sometimes language barriers can lead to wrong
impressions.
Can we please get back to constructive questions relating to "3.6.8
and 3.8.0 users" or let this tread die?
Thanks to all who have contributed including Disconnect. I welcome
more interesting conversations.
Regards from USA,
Bradley Giesbrecht
On Jul 23, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Disconnect wrote:
Neat, personal attacks. Way to stay classy. Paul asked for feedback:
I'd love to hear comments from anyone still running 3.6.8 and 3.8.0 I
want to understand why you didn't upgrade yet. What can we do to
help you?
I'd also love to hear from anyone who made the switch up to 3.9.0 -
was
the experience good?
Some people expressed that the previous installations/upgrades were,
at best, painful. I agreed.
I'm terribly sorry that you think we should rewrite history, but
regardless of how nice 3.9.0 is, installing or upgrading earlier
versions was a MESS. (Relatively) lots of people have come forward
here saying 3.9.0 is much better - great. (Although your behavior
makes me wonder how many people reported bugs, got flamed for daring
to think it wasn't perfect, and left.. this list is somewhat self-
selecting for people who are still using it. If that means dealing
with your attitude, I can understand why adoption dropped and why
everyone who is left thinks its the best thing since sliced bread..
everyone else left already.)
And I stated, in so many words, that I was going to be looking at
upgrading it. (I also pointed out that you were going to end up
supporting 3.6.8 forever if someone doesn't step up to either prod
or replace the debian maintainers.)
Would you like to try to put any other words in my mouth? Or can we
get back to the technical discussion/survey?
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:30:08 -0700
Quanah Gibson-Mount <qua...@zimbra.com> wrote:
> --On Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:26 PM +0200 Stevan Bajić <ste...@bajic.ch
>
> wrote:
>
> >> I'm not writing off dspam in my environments, but neither am I
rushing to
> >> alphatest new versions of a historically unstable, fragile
project.
> >>
> > Alphatest? The release is out since 1/2 year. The alphatest
phase is
> > long, long, long ago done. You are in no way alphatesting. 3.9.0
is a
> > stable release.
>
> On a related note, Zimbra upgraded to using DSPAM 3.9.0 quite some
time
> ago. During the process (we upgraded to the rc's before the final
> production release), I broke one of the RCs, and heard a multitude
of
> complaints. We've had zero complaints with the production 3.9.0
in place.
> So I would think if there was something seriously wrong with the
release,
> we'd have heard something by now. ;)
>
Thanks for the feedback. But I am pretty much confident that the
user "Disconnect" does still not care and will not upgrade.
Anyway... it's good to hear that you have no big issues with DSPAM
in Zimbra. One thing that I find rather strange is that you use
DSPAM inside Amavis in Zimbra. Why is that? Why are you not using
DSPAM outisde of Amavis on a per user basis rather then using one
single user (I mean the way how Amavis is using DSAPM is that it
processes messages under one single DSPAM user account)?
You could get much more out of DSPAM if you would wire DSPAM into
Postfix and then from there instruct DSPAM to work with the Zimbra
directory and offer the final user to have his own token data and
settings. You off course could allow administrators to create DSPAM
groups which will help to lower the amount of training/re-training
for the final user and will help to increase accuracy.
If I would ask you what you would change/add in future DSPAM
releases then what would you tell me?
> --Quanah
>
--
Kind Regards from Switzerland,
Stevan Bajić
> --
>
> Quanah Gibson-Mount
> Principal Software Engineer
> Zimbra, Inc
> --------------------
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>
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