on 10/12/00 1:08 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 12/10/00 01:38, Mark A. Kippert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>> And if the battery is charged, why does my Duo keeps insisting to shut down
>>> when I pull the power adapter?
>>> 
>>> I've heard that something called the PowerManager was involved. How can I
>>> reset it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> -Laurent.
>> 
>> To reset the Power Manager you need to remove the new battery and unplug the
>> AC adapter. Then find the small Power button on the back, push and hold it
>> down for 3-5 seconds (actually I hold it down for several second more just
>> for good measure but Apple says 3-5).
>> 
>> After that you put the battery back in first, then plug in the adapter and
>> boot the machine. Once it boots, unplug it and see if that helped. Repeat
>> the process a few more times if it doesn't. And if it still doesn't I
>> suppose the battery is toast.
>> 
>> You might also check the 4 little metal tongs that make contact with the
>> battery inside the PowerBooks battery compartment. I had a Duo that wouldn't
>> recognize the battery because they were out of alignment. I reached down
>> inside the battery compartment with a plastic knife and gently bent them up.
>> Be careful not to over bend them. I also cleaned the terminals with a pencil
>> eraser first. After that the battery was recognized. Make sure you unplug
>> the AC adapter of course.
>> 
>> As far as voltage is concerned, it sounds correct. But I don't think the
>> voltage will drop as a battery is discharged. I believe it's the amperage
>> that you need to check. That is the reading that will decrease as the
>> battery is used. At least that's what I have been told.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> -makmac
>> 
> 
> Hi makmac!
> 
> OK, I've tried everything you suggested, but the Duo still shut down when I
> unplug the adapter. I've checked the battery connectors in the battery
> compartment, and AFAICT, they seem just fine, not bent in anyway.
> 
> I also found the service manual for the 200s serie, and they were describing
> the Power Manager reset by pressing the back power button for 30-35s. I
> tried that, but the Duo wouldn't work on the battery. However, when the Duo
> loaded the Finder, the little battery icon in the menubar was kind of blue,
> certainly not red or orange. But then, a few seconds later, it started
> charging the battery. Finally, I've noticed that there are additional
> information in the "Essential PowerBook Strip", in the control strip.
> Basically, for "usage", where before, only "00000" would show up, was now
> displaying "00514". So, it apparently ran a short period of time off the
> battery. I think I will let it recharge overnight and we'll see tomorrow.
> 

Oh, another thing I just remembered having happen...  For a while, one of my
Duo 280c's was "finicky" in that, if I had the battery in and the locking
mechanism on the battery properly seated, it wouldn't recognize the battery.
If I fiddled with the battery and had it VERY slightly out of place, it
worked fine.  After reconditioning the batteries in that way and doing the
cleaning of the terminals thing and then trying a bunch of different
batteries, things began working again.  Problem is, I was in a hurry and so
I wasn't terribly scientific about my procedure and don't know exactly what
fixed the problem.  In fact, at one point, I decided that sliding it in
gently wasn't seating it firmly against the contacts, so I got more firm and
slid it in rather sharply.  Whatever I did worked, and I haven't had a
problem since.  (just wish I knew what I did right...  *mutters to himself*)

- Eric.


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