>         One caveat, however - we're past the point of no 
>         return in the technology realm.  We can't just go back to the land.  
>         There are too many of us.  I think we're stuck on a technological 
>         treadmill.

Al has an important point here.  It is too late to go back to a 
non-technological time.  Anyway, for humans has there ever been a 
non-technological time?  Humans have used tools to manuever their ways 
through the world.  Of course, I recognize the differnce between a 
context of several thousand years ago and the world of 
technological-saturation now.  I do not mean to say all technology is the 
same. 

 Also, I believe it is important to recognize that technology does 
not have to be used in a detrimental manner.  Sure it has been and is, 
but this IMHO has much more to do with the patriarchal constructs in 
which it/us is/are embedded and NOT with an inherent internal nature of 
technology itself.  

At this point, the lines between nature and technolgy 
are blurred.  Rosalind Williams and Donna Haraway are wonderful persons 
to read regarding this point. Continually dichotomizing the two seems to 
be a very strange thing.  At least, it does not make sense to me; for 
instance, if someone were to ask me to identify the natural and the 
technological aspects of myself, I am not certain where exactly I would 
begin.

 
>         If nature is deemed more important than humans, then the 
>         best thing we could do is blow all our brains out and get out of 
>         nature's hair.  But I prefer to put humans first and try to make 
>         the world as happy as possible, including protecting the > 
        environment for human enjoyment.

It is my understanding that as a human, as a human animal, I am not 
outside of nature.  I am biological, pigs are biological , birds are 
biological....The problem is the human ability to be the most destructive 
to the world around us.  A shift in the manner we deal with the world 
would be a better solution than mass suicide.

Putting humans first, as if we are more worthy than all of the other 
creatures, plants, etc.,  is a problem, a BIG problem.  This is 
the same hubris that has landed us in the current environmental crisis in 
the first place.  This hubris continues even if we protect the 
environment, but only for our own sakes.

That's it for now.  Ignore any typos that might appear...I'm not always 
the best typist :-)

Anne Henderson

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