The practices and style of a specific business endevour (trying to make money out of a discipline) has nothing to do with the practices and style of the discipline itself. Why do you keep mixing the two? You will not find in any permaculture book instructions on how to advertise or charge for a course, something you may find in business schools.
Likely you won't see the style of the many people practising or teaching permaculture outside the "for sale" world until you dig a tiny little deeper or travel to experimental sites (these includes all sorts of realities in the western and in the "developing" world). The above is the reason you received answers you maybe didn't expect. If you want to know the details of the advertised course you should likely stress more the people offering it. It seems no one from this list following the thread has attented the specific course (yet) to be of further help on this. Francesca ________________________________ From: Wayne Tyson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:49 AM Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Permaculture mysteries Re: [ECOLOG-L] [Be the Change] Sustainability, Permaculture and Leadership Ecolog: I hope it is clear that I'm not out to gore Permaculture's ox; I am only questioning some of its practices and style. I went to the website. It not only did not say up-front what the fees were going to be and describe with any specificity what we, the unenlightened, were to get for our money, I was unable to find this information anywhere on the site. Apparently, one does not get to know what one is going to have to pay until one registers. I am suspicious of such practices. I do not want to be sucked in by warm and fuzzy sentiments only to discover that there are surprises in store once I have signed up. I want to know what I am signing up for, and I want more than vague generalities with respect to where the "coursework" is going. All of the "testimonials" from various John and Jane Does did not leave a positive impression in my mind; that sort of thing seems to me to be more in the category of salesmanship. All of the various responses did nothing to bring clarity, they consisted primarily of more claims and links to other web sites/pages. I take that sort of thing as patronizing. The idea of a forum like Ecolog is for individuals to express themselves on issues of common interest, not to refer participants to supposed authority. I still would be interested in knowing what the various seminars cost in their entirety and a clear description of course content. I want to hear from individuals, not just standard shibboleths. WT
