Following up on this: Cascadia Wikimedians may need some kind of presentation outline or screencast along these lines by mid-April. If the WMF education team and others can't create one by that time, we/I might hack together a rudimentary version and put it on Commons for others to reuse and/or build on.
Does anyone have recommendations for screencast creation software, preferably ones that are open source? Thanks, Pine On Feb 23, 2015 2:19 PM, "Sage Ross" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Charles' suggestion is right on: a couple of screencasts > demonstrating the use of VE would be a great thing to have. > > While VE itself needs less and less explanation in terms of the > mechanics, there's still a lot that newcomers won't know in terms of > how they *ought* to use it. It would be great to demonstrate the > basics of what is expected of a Wikipedia article, using VE. This is > somewhat analogous to the approach we took with VE in the "Editing > Wikipedia" brochure: the center spread is about edting with > VisualEditor and wikitext, but the VisualEditor side of it is all > about the structure of a Wikipedia article. Showing a tightly edited > demonstration of someone starting a well-structured sandbox article > from scratch in VE, and explaining why they are using all the > formmatting tools they use along the way — from bolding the title to > section headers to wikilinks to citations to adding images to external > links in a 'see also' section — that would be ideal. > > It's probably not something Wiki Education Foundation would tackle any > time soon, though. > > Similarly, it would nice to have some guided tours that walk through > the basics of VE usage, similar to the wikitext ones in the current > training. I *might* find time to squeeze that in at some point in the > next few months. > > We're tenatively planning to redo the WP:STUDENT training as part of > the Dashboard/Course Page system we're building, so that it would have > knowledge checks along the way and probably send users over to > Wikipedia to go through sandbox guided tours to practice the basics. > But that won't happen until (probably) late 2015. > > -Sage > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Jami Mathewson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't know what our future training plans are, as I think the current > > training is pretty great for English Wikipedia. Definitely one of our > best > > resources for students, so it's probably not a priority to improve that > just > > yet. Sage may have better information about that, though. > > > > You'll have to be more specific about ideas that inspire students, and > may I > > suggest we take this off-list so as not to overwhelm everybody's inbox? > > Jami > > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Jami (and sorry for misspelling your name. I am far too used to > >> writing to Jaime Anstee!) > >> > >> Will Wiki Ed be developing training for VE? > >> > >> LiAnna had some great ideas about how to inspire students. Are those > >> incorporated into the standard training anywhere? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Pine > >> > >> On Feb 23, 2015 12:26 PM, "Jami Mathewson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> They're still using the student training[1], as we do not have a > specific > >>> training for VE. > >>> > >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training/For_students > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Jaime, thanks for the info. What training materials are these > courses > >>>> using? > >>>> > >>>> Pine > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 23, 2015 9:50 AM, "Jami Mathewson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> We have some classes that are editing primarily with the VE this > term. > >>>>> Those classes still assigned the regular training for students, as > the > >>>>> concepts about the community, policies, sourcing, and copyvios are > important > >>>>> no matter which editor you use. We also thought the intro to wiki > markup in > >>>>> the training would still be useful—for talk pages and other pages > where you > >>>>> cannot enable the VE. > >>>>> Jami > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Charles Matthews > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 23 February 2015 at 12:56, Vojtěch Dostál > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I suppose WMUK's learning environment is not something other > language > >>>>>>> editions can profit from, right? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I still strongly prefer the Wikipedia:Training toolkit. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> It depends what you want. The VLE is 81 lessons, now plus one new > >>>>>> "digital literacy" course, and so is more than a quick > introduction. It has > >>>>>> quizzes, and I added some videos just before Wikimania. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A simple solution to teaching the VE would be perhaps two screen > >>>>>> capture videos, demonstrating how to use it for some simple > operations. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Charles > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Education mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Jami Mathewson > >>>>> Educational Partnerships Manager > >>>>> Wiki Education Foundation > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> User:Jami (Wiki Ed) > >>>>> @WikiEducation > >>>>> wikiedu.org/partnerships/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Our organization supports the Wikipedia Education Program in the > United > >>>>> States and Canada. > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Education mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Education mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jami Mathewson > >>> Educational Partnerships Manager > >>> Wiki Education Foundation > >>> [email protected] > >>> User:Jami (Wiki Ed) > >>> @WikiEducation > >>> wikiedu.org/partnerships/ > >>> > >>> Our organization supports the Wikipedia Education Program in the United > >>> States and Canada. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Education mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Education mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jami Mathewson > > Educational Partnerships Manager > > Wiki Education Foundation > > [email protected] > > User:Jami (Wiki Ed) > > @WikiEducation > > wikiedu.org/partnerships/ > > > > Our organization supports the Wikipedia Education Program in the United > > States and Canada. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education >
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