>It was my contention that, since AT & T is the ONLY cable outfit we can 
>use, they have no right to force us to use MS-OE by configuring their 
>servers so that this is the ONLY email client that works with them.
>
>Since the government seems to agree with ME, they were VERY interested in 
>this situation and so I think you might see a class action suit in the 
>near future.

Just curious... has anyone that has had these problems with AT&T verified 
that in fact their servers ONLY work with OE, or rather they just only 
offer "support" for OE.

There is a HUGE difference. It might be illegal to deliberatly make sure 
that your systems only WORK with one product. But last I knew, there is 
nothing illegal about only offering support for one product. 

Last I knew, AT&T was only limiting "support" to OE, but in fact was 
actively attempting to find out why Eudora wasn't working correctly, 
which shows that they are not limiting their servers to only "work" with 
OE.

Also, there has yet to be anything sent back to this list in the way of 
stream logs for POP sessions that might help show why Emailer has a hard 
time collecting email from AT&T.

Although, there IS a ton of info on AT&T's web site that implies why 
Emailer can't do it... simply because Emailer doesn't support SSL 
connections. Again, this isn't illegal, it isn't AT&T's problem if OE is 
the only email client that supports a public secure transmission standard 
(BTW: OE is NOT the only client that supports SSL)

And as for the Network Stream error incorrectly being reported by 
Emailer... this isn't entirely AT&T's fault. Yes, their servers are 
disconnecting without giving a final ack... but Emailer really should 
know not to report that as an error. OE apparently knows not to report it 
as an error, as I'm sure other email clients do as well (if I was writing 
an email client, and I found mine was reporting this as an error, I would 
fix it on MY client, and not bother trying to get the ISP to change what 
they are doing wrong.)

I'm sorry, currently, I haven't seen any significant evidence that 
indicates AT&T has done anything wrong. The only thing they seem to be 
guilty of is having poor server software, and having made the business 
decision to limit their tech support costs by only offering support for 
one free multi-platform email client. Nothing illegal in my opinion, but 
then, I'm not a lawyer, so what do I know.

-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>

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