>Not "because it makes me feel 
>good", but WHY does it make you feel good. Once you have that answer, 
>THEN fire off that flaming response to me telling me I'm wrong, and why 
>you do what you do, and how that reason is different then fulfilling 
>either personal survival or species survival.

In my extremely humble opinion, you are right to some extent but I don't 
agree that there are only two "human motivating factors"  for I also 
think most human beings also strive to have a meaningful existence. 

We are "the philososphical species" really (although I have seen other 
animals seemingly lost in thought).  For instance, alot of the people I 
know have had children not simply to perpetrate themselves (more so than 
the species I would say), but to add meaning to their lives.  

As a woman d'un certain age without children and past the need to attract 
a mate for purposes of procreation or material support, I still spend 
thought and money on making myself (and my house and my car etc) 
attractive to other human beings  - in order to be socially fit, in order 
to continue to pay for the roof over my head and to have a social life. 
And I look for pursuits on a daily basis that will add meaning since I 
have the luxury to do so - although even those humans with hard, 
exhausting lifes usually find a way to take at least a little time out 
for philosophical or spiritual activity of one kind or another (smelling 
roses, going to church, etc). 

Also, I think one of the reasons we congregate in social groups is to use 
the energy a group dynamic gives us and to reaffirm our sense of self - 
our own meaning, if you will.

This is the first time I have thought about this specifically so I am 
only speculating but it is one of the things I love best about this list 
- the off topic rants and ramblings!

Tannis

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