>What Schiller actually said was more vague.  He said Apple would not 
>SUPPORT windows. He then added Apple would do nothing to prevent it, and 
>that some users undoubtably would install windows on the Mac.
>
>Consdering the R&D cost savings of having Intel do motherboard design, I 
>would say the chances are extremely high that, across the Mac product 
>line, Windows will install out of the box.

I'm not convinced that will be the case... although I certainly hope it 
will be.

I currently have to carry two laptops. One for Mac, and one for Win XP. 
I'd love to be able to buy a Mac laptop, and have the option of simply 
dual booting into Windows for the few times I need it. (or better yet, I 
hope Apple takes advantage of Intel's licensing with VMWare, and makes 
"Classic" for Intel OSes... so you can run Windows in a much faster, much 
more compatible "Virtual PC" environment without having to actually shut 
down OS X. As long as I can have apparently direct hardware access as 
VMWare is able to fake, and do it without a serious performace hit like 
VPC has, then I'd much rather do it in a window then as a dual boot).

I interpereted Schiller's comments to be more "we aren't designing the 
Mac to work with Windows, and we aren't going to do it, but I'm not going 
to say it isn't possible, because there is a really good chance someone 
else may try to do it, and we aren't going to stop them, and I don't want 
to go on record saying it can't or won't be done and then be proven wrong"

Here is his exact comment, so others can form their own opinions:

>After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller 
>addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans 
>to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude 
>someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't 
>do anything to preclude that." However, Schiller said the company does not 
>plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We 
>will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac."


Like I said, I'm not convinced it will work out of the box, although like 
I also said, I rather hope it will, as I could use that ability. I'm 
certainly going to keep my fingers crossed that it will.

I can bet that OS X runs right now on generic PC hardware. Apple has been 
doing it internally for years, and I can't imagine they built special 
Intel hardware just to get OS X to run. I'm sure OS X for Intel, by 
default, runs on any old generic PC (with obvious limits to what has 
driver support). I'm really REALLY curious if the developer release runs 
on generic PC hardware. I'd think Apple put something in to prevent it, 
otherwise I don't see why they would be issuing machines to go with the 
OS. Of course, that could be little more then a security dongle card or 
serializing the version of OS X to work with only the Intel CPU it was 
issued with... all Intel CPU's have for a while had a serial number 
accessable via software.

I am really anxious to see what Apple is going to do with the Intel Mac. 
Are they going to make more or less PC Clones, or are they going to build 
specialized hardware. It may be cheaper to buy Intel motherboards... but 
Apple isn't doing this for cost savings, they are doing it because the 
PPC is a dead end for what Apple wants to do in the future (in fact, 
reports have it that the Intel CPUs are actually going to cost Apple MORE 
per CPU then the PPC does).

Also, I suspect Intel wants this as much, if not more then Apple. Intel 
has some really neat stuff that they can't get anyone interested in, 
because MS doesn't care. And if MS doesn't care, then the PC makers don't 
care. Apple is much more willing to play with and put new technology to 
use. Think about USB. Intel invented it, and it sat unused for years 
because PC makers didn't care. As soon as Apple started using it, 
suddenly USB was a hot item. So if Intel is pushing to get new stuff 
used, then that probably dictates building custom hardware, as none of 
the generic hardware currently supports it.

Intel wants their new toys to get used. They don't care about getting 
Apple's 4% market share of CPUs, they care about getting a company to use 
the new toys, and be open to discuss what other cool things can be 
done... and make them hot items and popular, so the other 95% of the 
computer world will want them too. MS doesn't do this for Intel. So Intel 
went to someone that would.

This is GOOD for Apple, because Intel will put their marketing muscle 
behind the Mac, and start ignoring MS. Unfortunatly, Intel doesn't care 
about what OS is out there, they care about selling chips. So if MS 
suddenly gets scared, and gets their act together, Intel will drop Apple 
like a hot potato and go back to working with the people that can hand 
them 90% of the computing world on the first try. But seeing as MS has 
never inovated, they've only ever duplicated... I suspect that outcome is 
fairly unlikely to happen. Intel will like Apple for a long time to come. 
Its good for Intel, and good for Apple, and good for us (well, ok, not 
good for *us* the Emailer users, we are screwed, but good for us the Mac 
users)

-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>

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