I'm trying to get a neighbor to buy a Mac Mini. In the process of looking 
up info for him, I noticed on the Mini's spec page under software, it 
definitely lists "Classic Environment" as included software, and that the 
OS with a new machine is Tiger (10.4).

I telephoned Apple Support who went and looked up the situation: Chris is 
correct, he said.  The "default" installation on a newly purchased Macs 
in Tiger is NOT going to include the Classic environment, but it IS going 
to be available as a "custom install" item from the accompanying 
installation disks.

I asked if the so-called "Classic environment" program was going to be 
available for future versions of OS X; he hedged and made a reply "Well, 
if there's enough need for it; hardly anybody is using OS 9 any more."  I 
then asked him if he reads his own company's Discussions, where there are 
obviously quite a few people using OS 9 still; and although in the last 
six months there has been a drop off, there are a lot still using OS 8.6, 
too.  He said that "no" he didn't read the Discussions! I suggested maybe 
he ought to! He said he gets maybe one OS 9 support call a week, as if 
that is indicative, to which I pointed out that of course he didn't get 
OS 9 calls, because he was tech support for new machines which came out 
with OS X, which he also allowed was true.  So, it seems that not only 
may there be economic motives at play, but also just some plain old 
cluelessness in the ability to be informed and to think department at 
Apple!!

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