Not sure lasersaur is a great example of "open" development, when their model 
is "give us $32 and we'll give you our 'open' source"

On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Charles Steinkuehler <char...@steinkuehler.net> 
wrote:

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> I am referring to the RepRap 3D printer crowd, as well as people
> building things like the Lasersaur:
> 
> http://labs.nortd.com/lasersaur/
> 
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nortd/lasersaur-open-source-laser-cutter-0
> 
> I do not mean "maker" as a general term for people who make things,
> but "maker" as in the maker-space / hacker-space movement.
> 
> On 7/2/2013 2:47 PM, EBo wrote:
>> I would have to disagree with the "...but in the maker community,
>> being open-source isn't a plus, it's more like a minimum barrier
>> for entry." I have never seen this at all.  Where did you run into
>> this?  The only people I have run into that had a problem with it
>> wanted to sell machines without even providing their
>> configurations, and that was not in the maker community but
>> industrial.
>> 
>> On Jul 2 2013 10:32 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 7/2/2013
>> 11:05 AM, Steve Stallings wrote:
>>>>> <snip> Thanks Seb, this is concrete progress. I would like
>>>>> for the current efforts at improvement of developer support
>>>>> and governance to be more visible. How do people feel about
>>>>> showing more current events on the main web page, and how
>>>>> would we go about it?
>> 
>> +1 Concrete Progress
>> 
>> I just wanted to chime in and comment a bit on "open", as it
>> relates both to the developer community and the source code.
>> 
>> When I asked what people liked best about LinuxCNC recently, the 
>> overwhelming #1 response boiled down to "it's open-source".  I can 
>> understand this perspective from the machine-control side of
>> things, but in the maker community, being open-source isn't a plus,
>> it's more like a minimum barrier for entry.
>> 
>> In addition to conventional open-source software, there are now
>> open hardware designs:
>> 
>> http://www.oshwa.org/
>> 
>> ....a "fair-share" program that strives to pay some back to the 
>> community that built the open designs currently being used as a
>> basis for new designs:
>> 
>> http://openbuildspartstore.com/fairshare-program/
>> 
>> ...and maker community individuals have even started some grass
>> roots "pay-it-forward" programs (I've printed two complete sets of
>> parts to give away as part of this effort):
>> 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/deltabot/y7wvHSm7ASI
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I just wanted to emphasize folks coming from the maker 
>> community will expect "Open with a capital O" and make sure
>> everyone here was aware of the open-source hardware movement.  In
>> fact, almost *EVERYTHING* related to my 3D printer is completely
>> open-source (hardware and software), including:
>> 
>> * The printer design itself, including the custom printed and
>> laser cut parts required to build it.
>> 
>> * The Arduino board that was it's original 'brain'
>> 
>> * The RAMPS board used to drive motors with the Arduino
>> 
>> * The firmware running on the Arduino to control the printer
>> 
>> * The PC side software to communicate with the Arduino
>> 
>> * LinuxCNC, which I now have driving my printer
>> 
>> * The BeagleBone controller board which is now my printer's
>> 'brain'
>> 
>> ...in fact, just about everything on my 3D printer but the
>> integrated circuits and the BeBoPr driver board is fully open.
>> 
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