I've given this a bit of a sit and still have to disagree. Granted the Lasersaur and Makerbot groups/company have not necessarily played nice, but most of the stuff is open source. After letting it settle and giving it a rethink, I guess what you ment by "...minimum barrier for entry" is often the attitude that if it is not open source, it is not worth my time mucking with. So do I take it that you see LinuxCNC's non adoption in the 3D printing world stemming from being open enough? I'm still confused. I know for a fact that until recently it would not run on low end hardware that is good enough to do the job, and is a bloody pain to get up an running by all by the initiated, uber skilled, or those who just use it off the distribution disk without modification. Do not get me wrong, it is MUCH better, but still plug-and-pray.
I'm still curious what you mean... EBo -- On Jul 2 2013 1:58 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am referring to the RepRap 3D printer crowd, as well as people > building things like the Lasersaur: > > http://labs.nortd.com/lasersaur/ > > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nortd/lasersaur-open-source-laser-cutter-0 > > I do not mean "maker" as a general term for people who make things, > but "maker" as in the maker-space / hacker-space movement. > > On 7/2/2013 2:47 PM, EBo wrote: >> I would have to disagree with the "...but in the maker community, >> being open-source isn't a plus, it's more like a minimum barrier >> for entry." I have never seen this at all. Where did you run into >> this? The only people I have run into that had a problem with it >> wanted to sell machines without even providing their >> configurations, and that was not in the maker community but >> industrial. >> >> On Jul 2 2013 10:32 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 7/2/2013 >> 11:05 AM, Steve Stallings wrote: >>>>> <snip> Thanks Seb, this is concrete progress. I would like >>>>> for the current efforts at improvement of developer support >>>>> and governance to be more visible. How do people feel about >>>>> showing more current events on the main web page, and how >>>>> would we go about it? >> >> +1 Concrete Progress >> >> I just wanted to chime in and comment a bit on "open", as it >> relates both to the developer community and the source code. >> >> When I asked what people liked best about LinuxCNC recently, the >> overwhelming #1 response boiled down to "it's open-source". I can >> understand this perspective from the machine-control side of >> things, but in the maker community, being open-source isn't a plus, >> it's more like a minimum barrier for entry. >> >> In addition to conventional open-source software, there are now >> open hardware designs: >> >> http://www.oshwa.org/ >> >> ....a "fair-share" program that strives to pay some back to the >> community that built the open designs currently being used as a >> basis for new designs: >> >> http://openbuildspartstore.com/fairshare-program/ >> >> ...and maker community individuals have even started some grass >> roots "pay-it-forward" programs (I've printed two complete sets of >> parts to give away as part of this effort): >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/deltabot/y7wvHSm7ASI >> >> >> Anyway, I just wanted to emphasize folks coming from the maker >> community will expect "Open with a capital O" and make sure >> everyone here was aware of the open-source hardware movement. In >> fact, almost *EVERYTHING* related to my 3D printer is completely >> open-source (hardware and software), including: >> >> * The printer design itself, including the custom printed and >> laser cut parts required to build it. >> >> * The Arduino board that was it's original 'brain' >> >> * The RAMPS board used to drive motors with the Arduino >> >> * The firmware running on the Arduino to control the printer >> >> * The PC side software to communicate with the Arduino >> >> * LinuxCNC, which I now have driving my printer >> >> * The BeagleBone controller board which is now my printer's >> 'brain' >> >> ...in fact, just about everything on my 3D printer but the >> integrated circuits and the BeBoPr driver board is fully open. >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >>> >>> Build for Windows Store. >>> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ Emc-developers >>> mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ Emc-developers >> mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >> > > - -- > Charles Steinkuehler > char...@steinkuehler.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlHTMP4ACgkQLywbqEHdNFzcKQCgoyLRg0yRw8A+SnXUxIzeCXwb > G2QAoPt3OkLemNoR4bTN5bWkeJO3JXQS > =ED0L > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
