A lot of industrial "open" standards are like that..   Send us $495 and 
we will give you the open standards/interface 
specifications/protocol/sample source code, etc.

So "Open" does not necessarily mean free.

I wonder how they came up with $32 ?  That seems like an odd amount.

Dave

On 7/2/2013 4:31 PM, Ian McMahon wrote:
> Not sure lasersaur is a great example of "open" development, when their model 
> is "give us $32 and we'll give you our 'open' source"
>
> On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Charles Steinkuehler<char...@steinkuehler.net>  
> wrote:
>
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>> I am referring to the RepRap 3D printer crowd, as well as people
>> building things like the Lasersaur:
>>
>> http://labs.nortd.com/lasersaur/
>>
>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nortd/lasersaur-open-source-laser-cutter-0
>>
>> I do not mean "maker" as a general term for people who make things,
>> but "maker" as in the maker-space / hacker-space movement.
>>
>> On 7/2/2013 2:47 PM, EBo wrote:
>>      
>>> I would have to disagree with the "...but in the maker community,
>>> being open-source isn't a plus, it's more like a minimum barrier
>>> for entry." I have never seen this at all.  Where did you run into
>>> this?  The only people I have run into that had a problem with it
>>> wanted to sell machines without even providing their
>>> configurations, and that was not in the maker community but
>>> industrial.
>>>
>>> On Jul 2 2013 10:32 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 7/2/2013
>>> 11:05 AM, Steve Stallings wrote:
>>>        
>>>>>> <snip>  Thanks Seb, this is concrete progress. I would like
>>>>>> for the current efforts at improvement of developer support
>>>>>> and governance to be more visible. How do people feel about
>>>>>> showing more current events on the main web page, and how
>>>>>> would we go about it?
>>>>>>              
>>> +1 Concrete Progress
>>>
>>> I just wanted to chime in and comment a bit on "open", as it
>>> relates both to the developer community and the source code.
>>>
>>> When I asked what people liked best about LinuxCNC recently, the
>>> overwhelming #1 response boiled down to "it's open-source".  I can
>>> understand this perspective from the machine-control side of
>>> things, but in the maker community, being open-source isn't a plus,
>>> it's more like a minimum barrier for entry.
>>>
>>> In addition to conventional open-source software, there are now
>>> open hardware designs:
>>>
>>> http://www.oshwa.org/
>>>
>>> ....a "fair-share" program that strives to pay some back to the
>>> community that built the open designs currently being used as a
>>> basis for new designs:
>>>
>>> http://openbuildspartstore.com/fairshare-program/
>>>
>>> ...and maker community individuals have even started some grass
>>> roots "pay-it-forward" programs (I've printed two complete sets of
>>> parts to give away as part of this effort):
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/deltabot/y7wvHSm7ASI
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I just wanted to emphasize folks coming from the maker
>>> community will expect "Open with a capital O" and make sure
>>> everyone here was aware of the open-source hardware movement.  In
>>> fact, almost *EVERYTHING* related to my 3D printer is completely
>>> open-source (hardware and software), including:
>>>
>>> * The printer design itself, including the custom printed and
>>> laser cut parts required to build it.
>>>
>>> * The Arduino board that was it's original 'brain'
>>>
>>> * The RAMPS board used to drive motors with the Arduino
>>>
>>> * The firmware running on the Arduino to control the printer
>>>
>>> * The PC side software to communicate with the Arduino
>>>
>>> * LinuxCNC, which I now have driving my printer
>>>
>>> * The BeagleBone controller board which is now my printer's
>>> 'brain'
>>>
>>> ...in fact, just about everything on my 3D printer but the
>>> integrated circuits and the BeBoPr driver board is fully open.
>>>
>>>        
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