Bill,

Good piece of information. 

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On 9 Jun 2008 at 7:02, Bill Owsley wrote:

> 
> Another little detail that gets lost in the shuffle is that while the FCC 
> will accept CISPR 22 test 
> data showing comliance to the those limits, the FCC also requires that the 
> tests be 
done 
> according to ANSI C63.4 which specifies that the mains power bethe usualUSA 
voltage and 
> frequency; 120vac/60Hz. And so... two tests - FCC & CISPR. Annoying details!
> 
> The MRA's between countries for the EMC regulations is helpful for a common 
> ICES-
003, FCC, 
> CISPR 22, except for the mains power part.
> It also appears to be necessary since numerous products I've tested have 
> passed at 
one main 
> voltage and failed at the other.
> -
> 
> 
> Bill Stumpf <[email protected]> wrote:
>     Currently, Industry Canada will accept FCC test data for devices subject 
> to ICES-
003. I'd 
>     have your test lab provide you a test report for ICES-003 based on the 
> FCC data. 
Also, be 
>     sure that your labeling and information to the user meet IC requirements. 
> You 
mentioned 
>     Declaration of Conformity. DOC and DOC labeling is only applicable to 
> some types 
of ITE. 
>     
>     Bill Stumpf
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>     To: [email protected]
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>     Subject: Re: ICES -003 approval for FCC DoC product
>     
>     No you don't. The latest version is ICES-003 2004 Issue 4.
>     
>     Actually the FCC will accept test data done to CISPR 22 (see CFR 47, Part
>     15.109 (g)).
>     
>     If the ITE device is an intentional radiator, then the testing site will 
> have to be listed 
by the 
>     FCC and IC.
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>     Bob Heller
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>     Kbalasubramanian@ 
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>     06/09/2008 05:33 Subject 
>     AM ICES -003 approval for FCC DoC 
>     product 
>     
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>     Dear Experts,
>     We have tested our ITE device for FCC Part15 Class B compliance in an 
> NVLAP 
>     accredited lab. In the same lab for the same device we conducted testing 
> for 
CISPR22 
>     Class B compliance also. Based on these 2 reports we have issued DoC for 
> placing 
the 
>     device in US & EU market. Now the same device we plan to sell in Canada. 
> Do we 
need 
>     another testing or can we issue a DoC based on the FCC & CISPR reports.
>     
>     Sincerely SCM Microsystems (India) Pvt. Ltd.
>     K. Balasubramanian  Modules 0506,
>     0507 & 0508, D - Block,
>     Manager - Hardware  South Wing, TIDEL Park, Tel : +91 44 
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