On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:32 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 June 2020 13:41:32 Bruce Layne wrote:
>
> > On 6/16/20 10:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I've not been anyplace to get a glass plate yet. At my age & health,
> > > I'm steering as clear of this damned virus as I can.
> >
> > Good plan.  Stay healthy.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Glass-Print-Borosilicate-Printer-235x235x3-7mm/
> >dp/B07JKGNB6W
> >
> > Plenty of options on eBay when searching for "Ender 3 glass".
>
> I see that, and all are quite pricy.
>

So that's why some people buy mirror tiles.  They cost only $1.70 each at
Home Depot but you have to cut them down yourself.

>
> This next half a sprocket is about 30% complete and I can already see its
> at least 80% air, starving for plastic.


80% air is about correct if the infill is at 20%.   The interior of most
parts doesn't need to be solid.  In fact you'd get large and uneven
shrinkage it it was.  50% infill (or 50% air) is a good compromise for
structural parts that need to be strong.

What is the "correct" extruder speed?     Let's lay the layer height is
0.1mm and the nozzle is 0.4 mm  The the cross-section of a wall is 0.04 mm
squared.  Then if the extruder draws a 1mm long line 0.04 cubic mm of
plastic is needed.    But the filament is 1.75mm diameter and a 2.4 mm
squared cross-section.

So the extruder needs to extrude 0.04/2.4 mm of filament per mm of travel
or 0.0166 mm filament per mm of line.   If moving at 100mm/sec that is
1.6mm/sec of filament.

Ifthe layer thickness is 0.2 mm then the extruer rate is dubled over what
is was for 0.1.   Bu the print speed is always changing so the extruder
speed has to constantly change too.

There is another issue too. There is a volume of liquid plastic and so a
lag between when the extruder motor pushing in new cold filiment and the
hot liquid leaves the nozzle.  The larger the volume the more the lag.
Also some extruder place the rollers close are farther from the hot end.
In the ectream case some use a teflon tube ad place the extruder stepper
motor on the fixed frame.    This makes the print head very light in
weight and can move much faster.    But huge "lag" time.

So remember the quote from that famous hockey player "I don't skate to the
puck.  I skate to where to puck will be in a few seconds."  The extruder
has to anticipate the lag-time so it will not exactly follow the
nozzle speed but looks at where the nozzle will be in a few milliseconds.

These printers work because many people have invented hundreds of rules of
thumb and encoded all this into the slicer software.

OK, bottom line, if you say "110%" you are just adding a 10% bump to the
rules the slicer uses.    I would only do that if using undersize filament
or if the printer has 10 undersized rollers in the extruder.     But errors
so large or unheard of.   2% or 3%  maybe at most.



>   Whats the steps/mm for the
> extruders default on your printer? cura is set to 110% flow, and default
> extruder/mm is 94.50/mm at the printer.
>
> Got to something wrong someplace
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Chris Albertson
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