On Thu, 4 Oct 2012, Maria Damon wrote:

Is there then (I'm sort of assuming the answer is yes, but asking anyway in
order to make it part of the fabric of the conversation) a way in which
lamentation is also critique as well as community self-constitution, as in

Maria, I wonder what sort of critique would be possible? Lamentations seems to bridge the political and the obdurate. When pain becomes overwhelming, silence is at the core and the signifier dissolves; I think this is also the core of anguish. One is left speechless. On the other hand, how much clarity is necessary for political or 'rational' thought? In an odd way this also brings up mathematical thinking - which, from an outsider point-of-view, seems based on the manipulation of symbols, but from within is much more of clouded movements with indeterminate focus (see Jacques Hadamard). Thinking itself, in other words, may well have less content than its representations, and certainly its representations in virtual worlds, where everything, one way or another, is determinate and rationalized on a pixel-by-pixel level.

- Alan, foggier, apologies
empyre forum

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