On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:27:49 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:53:57 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
> said:
> 
> > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:51:48 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 08/04/2016 09:37 AM, David Seikel wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 16:08:11 -0700 Carsten Haitzler
> > > > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> raster pushed a commit to branch master.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=1f48ce5f6b588ade04d37680e318622991ac48b5
> > > >>
> > > >> commit 1f48ce5f6b588ade04d37680e318622991ac48b5
> > > >> Author: Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > >> Date:   Thu Aug 4 08:04:57 2016 +0900
> > > >>
> > > >>     emotion generic - vlc - make it off by default as 2 video
> > > >> bends is silly 
> > > >>     as per bug. requiring by DEFAULT 2 video back ends is
> > > >> rather rediculous. pick one and the others are optional. you
> > > >> could argue xine now is barely worth it, but it's stable and
> > > >> works and has proven to be not any real pain.
> > > >>     
> > > >>     gst1 is a more optimal and far more complete/featured
> > > >> backend that the vlc generic one anyway. vlc generic has the
> > > >> bonus of out-of-process, but gst1 is pretty stable (unlike the
> > > >> 0.1 backend), so let's not make peolpe install 2 video
> > > >> backends (or possibly 3 or more) just to build efl out of the
> > > >> box.
> > > > 
> > > > gst1 is not available on some stable Linux distros.  :-P
> > > > 
> > > Which one specifically? as far as I know all the major ones have
> > > migrated and shouldn't you just be using the stable efl to match
> > > your stable distro :P
> > 
> > Ubuntu 12.04 LTS hasn't reached EOL yet.  VLC works fine with EFL
> > on that.  If I was a mere user, sure I would stick to stable EFL,
> > I'm a developer.  Though previous stable EFLs also had to be told
> > not to use gst1.
> 
> 12.04 is 4+ years old. so no. doesn't count. you CAN switch to vlc or
> CAN switch to gst 0.10 backend with --enables/disables etc. but
> frankly. you don't count. not for the purposes of selecting DEFAULTS
> you don't. if the idea was "defaults are only on if everyone on the
> planet has that" then you would.  the point is selecting for the vast
> majority of people.

Your commit message implied both gst1 and VLC had advantages and
disadvantages, I was throwing out one more that might have switched the
balance in favour of VLC.

And I'm well aware that I don't count, I never count, everyone always
ignores me.  Hence me alias in places that require two names - onefang
Rejected.  Even being the biggest user of Evas_3D outside of Samsung
doesn't get me listened to by the Evas_3D developers.  :-P

Meh, I'm used to it.  Feel free to ignore this rant.  lol

-- 
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.

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