What does quitting Database Demon do? I only do this when I copy my User ID
onto my laptop from my G5.

Is it good practice to quit it regularly?

Barbara


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> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 01:27:28 -0000 (GMT)
> To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[email protected]>
> Cc: mac Talk <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Basic maintenance of Totally stable Entourage
> 
> While all the advice about keeping backups is a good one, if you have a
> working, stable system I wouldn't be going through and doing anything that
> introduces possible problems to the identity.
> 
> Examples of things that will start to change things, is removing
> attachments, etc. If you need to reduce the size, then they may be good
> ideas. If not, don't mess with what works.
> 
> The vast majority of people have never seen spurious corruption. I'm one
> of those people and I've been using the database when it definitely wasn't
> at its best (between releases).
> 
> Diane Ross said:
>> On 5/1/07 3:28 PM, "Lorin Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been using Entourage since it first came out, as I recall. I used
>>> Outlook before that and imported. So I have mail going back to 1998. I'm
>>> a
>>> writer, and have many books out. It is really handy to be able to see
>>> emails
>>> from 5, 7, 9 years ago, at a glance.
>>> 
>>> Even with tens of thousands of emails, Entourage is totally stable. I am
>>> wondering what a good, basic maintenance routine would be. What are the
>>> most
>>> elegant solutions? Should I put all the old email in Filemaker Pro, for
>>> example?
>>> 
>>> I quit the Database Daemon every day and back up the MUD folder to an
>>> external drive.
>> 
>> Be sure to keep multiple copies of your backups. This way in case there is
>> corruption, you can go back to an earlier backup. I use FolderOrgX to
>> organize my backups.
>> 
>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/database/backup.html#folderorg>
>>> 
>>> Other than that, the only thing I do is remove all attachments, both
>>> incoming and outgoing, and file them elsewhere. I do this as they come
>>> in.
>>> Once every six months or so I hold down the option key and let Entourage
>>> "compact" the database, which right now is 341 MB. I hadn't done this in
>>> a
>>> long time, and just before compacting it was 700 MB almost.
>> 
>> Do you use the scripts to remove attachments?  They will save, remove and
>> link the saved files to the message, so you can open the file directly
>> from
>> the message.
>> 
>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/script/fav_scripts.html#favscript17>
>> 
>> <http://scriptbuilders.net/files/saveattachments20041.0.0.html>
>> 
>> Also remove your outgoing attachments with a rule. This is assuming your
>> outgoing attachments are stored elsewhere on your computer. No need to
>> have
>> them duplicated and filling up your database.
>> 
>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/rules/example/rule001.html>
>>> 
>>> I really don't fuss with Entourage at all. It just works. The only thing
>>> I
>>> suspect is that because there are so many thousands of old emails, it
>>> slows
>>> down Project Center.
>>> 
>> See this on Project Center and slowdowns in Entourage:
>> 
>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/troubleshoot/project_center.html>
>>> 
>>> versions: I always have the latest OS and the latest build of Entourage.
>>> Right now that is Entourage 11.3.3, OS 10.4.9, on a G5 Mac with 8 GB of
>>> RAM
>>> and tons of hd space free.
>> 
>> 8GB of RAM is very nice!!!!
>> 
>> My only advice would be to archive your older mail to a separate Identity
>> for searching and to keep your working Identity lean and lessen the chance
>> of corruption in your older mail. Since you don't have a large database, I
>> would do this on a yearly basis.
>> 
>> Duplicate your current Identity. Name the copy Archive XXXX or some other
>> suitable name. Then in your current Identity, create a custom view to show
>> all mail older than xxx days. I always suggest at least a minimum of 90
>> days. Delete the older mails from the custom view.
>> 
>> (When you do this yearly I suggest having some overlap of messages.
>> Especially if you do this at the very beginning of the year. If not you'll
>> be constantly switching to the old Identity to search for a recent email.)
>> 
>> Now you have your current email available and your older mail safely
>> stored
>> in a separate Identity for easy searching. I don't suggest that you
>> compact
>> your database. Entourage will reuse that space with new messages. Think of
>> this as using a partition for Entourage.
>> 
>> One of the first things I do when I wipe a drive and re-install software
>> is
>> 
>> 1.  Install OS
>> 2.  Install Office
>> 3.  Open Entourage and add files to make it at least 2GB. (can be any
>> size)
>> 4.  Delete the excess mail that was added.
>> 
>> Now I have created a 2GB partition in one contiguous space on my drive for
>> my Entourage database. Even though your data is written to a database the
>> database can be in bits around your drive. By establishing a size to your
>> database in the beginning, Entourage will continue to reuse that space
>> without writing it to other parts of your drive.
>> 
>> --
>> Diane Ross, Microsoft Mac MVP
>> Entourage Help Page
>> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
>> One of the top five MS Entourage resources listed on the Entourage Blog.
>> <http://blogs.msdn.com/entourage/>
>> 
>> 
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