Installment no 2. After thinking over whether to stay linear or go beyond.
I'm going beyond. Plato suffers from nominalism. If an idea can be captured in 
a word, it's 
usually made into a noun which usuallly names an object which then has to be 
given a location 
somewhere. It's obvious that ideas don't grow on trees and are not found in 
rabbit holes or 
squirrel's nests, so it must be somewhere else. Since I don't speak ancient 
gReek or am in 
touch with the Greek zeitgeist It is possible it is not Plato but translation 
into a modern 
language with those faults that distort such things. Photons are an example. If 
they were 
actually photons, light particles, the sky should be lit up like a Neon 
shopping site. It is 
not, so a better explanation would be that whatever it is, a radiation, changes 
into light when 
hitting earth surrounding energy fields.
Occultism ditto. It talks about the Akashic records, name first coined by 
Madame Blavatsky. 
There are no angels with sharpened feathers writing it all down on papyrus or 
bleached 
sheepskins. NO factories in heaven. Heaven would need extra buildings pretty 
fast, not to 
ignore the legions of clerics to read them. Besides I doubt heaven is 
interested in trivia 
collecting. If it rains there's no little pages with placards running around 
with" "this is 
rain" printed on them. Rain is its own information you readily interpret, eh!
So let's assume information all sentient life is equipped to interpret to 
advantage of its own 
survival and comfort. A rabbit found grazing alongside a very noisy highway ran 
away when 
somebody trod on the grass nearby. Obviously rabbit knew the noise was not 
going to kill it but 
as to humans it was not so sure.
Get the message? It applies to many other things, even cosmology where we 
should not plaster 
our silly parochial ideas across the sky and complain when it turns out not to 
be the case. I 
have been visited by what one may call an angel. A polycoloured sphere, size 
varies. Ancient 
and up to medieval ideas have it they can shape change, something Sheldrake is 
into as 
morphogenesis and calls it science, haha. That happened at Lourdes when the 
Virgin Mary visited 
those children. Other people saw flying saucers. My daughter just visited and 
told me her 
oldest daughter is attended by invisible to daughter monsters who do a 
brilliant job of 
manipulating mummy and Daddy, which sound like an intelligent solution to me. 
My own son when 
he passed through the nightmare stage, which is when children discover is not 
as nice a place 
as they believed before, etc blahh. WE discussed the matter and invented a 
lioness who slept 
under the bed during the day and came out and, like the cat, to sleep at his 
feet on top of the 
bed. No more nightmares. I never found out where she went when he grew up some 
more and did not 
need her any more. Grand daughters monsters have all manner of hiding places 
but they always 
know when she needs them. Daughter's hubby got a new job in Wellington and 
we're both curious 
where the monsters are going to hide now. 2nd grad daughter has not yet decided 
to join the 
human race and seems like to be one of our families later developers. I very 
much doubt  she's 
mentally deficient, just does not happen in our family. Besides her beady 
little eyes are flat 
out watching everything. Speaking personally I never had any invisible friends, 
did not need 
the. I knew quite well how to play off one addled adult against another.

        Since mythology was much into process thinking about actions but 
pre-alphabetic writing in 
eidolon, images that included personification its quite possible Plato used the 
Greek language 
in that way. Indian godly pantheons and Egypt have plenty examples of the kind. 
It's quite 
possible to have very sophisticated thinking alongside crude portrayal. I don't 
know what Plato 
thought. But I'm quite sure modern translations don't have a clue about all 
that. This last 
sentence is  an example of nominalisation as it ain't the translation but the 
translators that 
make the mistake, but no great matter. Always think into the blank space below 
the fine print 
on the bottom line.

Another time I'll talk about ARS memoriae, arts of Memory antiquity used. 
Remind me if I don't. 
They're used to stuff untold masses of data between the ears, needed when you 
are a story 
teller, poets, etc. Look up Dame Frances  Yates on "the art of Memory, 1966 she 
opened up this 
can of worms, and Giardano Bruno, Ramon Lully, John Dee and there's now more 
stuff on internet, 
quite recent, getting pop, about time. It'll help you with Arica. I've got 
quite a list of 
them. see   http://www.synaptic.ch/infoliths/textes/arsmem.htm   I happened 
across.

adrian





ornamentalmind wrote:
> adrian, perhaps you would be willing to share a short overview of your
> views re: Plato?
> 



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